Censorship....good or bad?

[TonyQuinn]

Is it apt that we should give so much power to one individual about what matters to residents of East Dulwich or not? Answers on a postcard please cos I doubt this missive will last long?

[Sue]

What individual?

[Penguin68]

Absolutely right - tell me where you live and I'll come and paste my views all over your walls - and be upset if you tear them down and censor me. What right would you have to censor my views and those of any one else who wants to post on your walls - er, apart from them being your walls, I suppose.

[TonyQuinn]

Sue, I'm talking about the administrator cos he/she has lounged a petition to Downing Street to rid us all of FirstCrapitalConnect, which I think is a major issue for residents of East Dulwich.

http://www.firstcrapitalconnect.co.uk/

[DaveR]

No one is making any decisions about what matters to ED residents, someone is making decisions about the administration of this particular forum. If anybody (including me) doesn't like those decisions they can go elsewhere. Tony, are you offering to run this forum? Or an alternative forum? Go ahead, you are free to do so.

[reggie]

I think that this part of the forum (general issues) runs the risk of being too much about lost cats and not enough about bigger issues that effect east dulwich but i would say that wouldnt I?

Havent had the chance to advertise my blog in this section lately

[TonyQuinn]

No DaveR, i have no interest in running this forum but do think this forum contributes a lot to our little spot in town. I think most people only look at the main page....I have never looked in the Lounge. And I think that getting rid of my issue about train services around our hood diminishes the potential for us to make a meaningful difference. There's an inconsistency here...we have winter travel updates etc on the front page, but not something that wants to make our winter travel better. That's all.

[Loz]

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Is it apt that we should give so much power to one individual about what matters to residents of East Dulwich or not? Answers on a postcard please cos I doubt this missive will last long?

His gaff - he makes the rules. If the good residents of ED don't like it, they can create their own. Seems like they do rather like it around here, though.

[DaveR]

Tony, if you substituted your last post for the first one you may get more sympathy

For what it's worth, I agree with you in principle - this is clearly a local issue rather than a general talking point. Having said that, there has been some debate in the past about how strictly the "ED issues" should be policed, and I guess the easiest way is to say SE22 only.

I think a lot of people do look in the Lounge - maybe Admin can tell us?

[candj]

Tony, if your topic is not East Dulwich specific it does not belong in the main section, it's just the way the forum is constructed. That is not censorship, it is just being organised.

I took the winter travel update thread as a sort of emergency measure which avoided the beginning of zillions of little threads about winter travel updates, school closures, which roads were safe to walk on, which roads were gritted and when the rubbish would be collected. Very East Dulwich specific.

[Ladymuck]

*adopts "Victor Meldrew" tone and expression*

I don't belieeeeeeeeeve this.

[northlondoner]

Being lounged doesn't mean the discussion has been banned. It's just been located to another area, FFS! Just means scrolling down a bit.

And try the lounge - some of the best debates are on there.

[TonyQuinn]

No need to swear even in code mate. I have looked at the lounge and posted the petition on there for you all to peruse and to contribute to. Yours forever Tony

[*Bob*]

This should probably be in the 'about this forum' section.

[Ladymuck]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> This should probably be in the 'about this forum'

> section.

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

*curled up laughing*

[Administrator]

Lounged

[Mamma Mia]

Whilst we are on the topic of the correct areas to post, where should 'Lost and Found' threads be placed? All trace of my recent post "School Shoe Found On Beauval Road" was moved to the For Sale Section?! Not a problem for it to be moved because I understand that these do clutter up the main section but where should they go? Would a new Lost/Found section be useful considering how many cats, mobiles, ipods, shoes, baby items etc etc need to be reunited with their owners?

[giggirl]

TonyQuinn Wrote:

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I have never looked in the Lounge.

Tony - welcome to the Lounge. I never look on the main page - except maybe once a fortnight.

[KalamityKel]

Avoiding being seen to side with any political/petition type thingy (words are not good with me today) - by not making it a dominant feature on the forum can hardly be seen as censorship...

[Administrator]

Tony

The General ED issues / gossip... section is for issues specific to East Dulwich. General, worldly issues such as the price of fuel, global warming, Government policies, strikes, petitions against train companies and Simon Cowell's sexuality do affect people in East Dulwich but they are not specific to East Dulwich. It is a fine line sometimes and we do make wrong decisions but our aim is to try and keep it as local as possible.

[zephyr]

Great I can add to this thread now. I live in Nunhead so I obviously could not post in it before as it was so obviously East Dulwich specific ;-)

I agree that the original thread should have been lounged as with was not ED specific

[david_carnell]

Tony, is that really you? Have you come back to us? Oh Tony, we have missed you so.

Tell us, what news from Kent? And your lady friends? And black people in general?

Ah, the good ol' days return...

[Ladymuck]

Administrator Wrote:

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> Lounged

*curled up laughing*

Well...given the circumstances...

[TheePope]

Tony is exhibiting all the signs of stress of a regular FCC commuter and I can absolutely sympathise, it's an abysmal service and has been getting worse for the last 4 months, with the service problems only compounded by the bad weather.

Perhaps if the original post had mentioned the petition in relation to Denmark hill station it perhaps could have remiained where it was. It's certainly and issue for me and shoudl be an ED issue for anyone who uses the service so I find it a bit petty that it couldn't have stayed in the other section for a bit longer. But then it aint my forum.

For anyone who is interested in the issues then it is worth a look at the First Crapital Connect site and consider signing the petition.

First Capital Services such as the Denmark to Farringdon route which I use (17 minute journey) should be a welcome addition for ED commuters and it would be a shame if the issue gets lost because of the the way its been posted and then moved by admin.

[TonyQuinn]

Indeed, I am highly stressed about the daily commute and urge everyone again to sign the petition. Stand up for your rights for an adequate train service...no other European nation would put up with this garbage. There would be riots, burning of carriages, something going on.

Here is the petition once again.

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/FirstCC/