taper Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Quite.England looking very good against strong sides. Humbling the Irish. Out thinking the French. Lucky my arse. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 AM said England got lucky with their try. Which they did. I think England are a well disciplined team who have a territorial game plan. It works. But it's not good to watch I'm afraid. The French had all the flair but discipline and penalties can win matches, England's current forte. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Bloody A.B.E.ers. Read 'em and weep b[h]oy[o]s. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 So said the Spaniard!All I am saying is if France had continued to play the exciting brand of rugby they started with and England didn't get that lucky try, the result could have been different. England were certainly not 'hard and shoulders' (sic) above Ireland when they played. England's game plan as Mick alluded to was perfect for the wet conditions that day.http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/matchcentre/7991.php?section=stats&fixid=153769Have a look at the stats from that game. Ireland's represent what you would normally expect to see from a team who had won.Wonder if OF will get cited for that off the ball incident? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 After two out three matches, he who complaineth so much about the handicap imposed, has moved right up the table. RD also scored the only exact score bonus though there were several near misses. Mick is a good bet for the Masters. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Guscott just said England were lucky with their try. "It was a good refereeing decision for England". AM was spot on,. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Palaeologus Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 England played well enough to win the game. The lucky try was a lucky try but that is the nature of competitive sport; and after all, God in an Englishman. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Every team has both good luck and bad luck - the winners are those who put themselves in a position to capitalize on good luck and mitigate for bad.France were ill disciplined and dedicated several of their team to one on one spoilers, it was a strategy that unsettled Engalnd but cost them in the last 20 minutes when they started to run out of steam. I think the bizarre substitution choices were forced upon them by a lack of fitness - they just forgot that whilst the new players may be fresh, they wen't very organized.England kept missing tackles. They were slightly embarrassing! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Been a lot of talk on here about stats'... I dont think there'll be any Irish fans who want to talk about them today. No killer instinct. Great come back by the Scots. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 They're getting good at winning the stats though, only one that counts though.Lots of sour grapes on here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yep. Possession and territory is irrelevant if you don't make your penalty kicks. That's one difference between Ireland and England.Ireland need Sexton. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 In fairness those injuries have told.I couldn't help thinking in tHe first half that o'driscoll used to convert those situations to tries for fun. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I don't know why you refer to sour grapes Pibe. Where? If it were from me, my comment about you being Spanish was tongue in cheek.As for today I wouldn't blame Ireland losing on goalkicking. Paddy Jackson doesn't even kick for Ulster. It was his first test so no big deal. Marshall looked really good in the centre. It's about time Ireland gave younger players a chance. ROG was great in his time but I suspect that kick of his in the 22 was something he might have tried on playstation if there was a rugby game. Madigan from Leinster should have been included in the 22. I suspect that was ROG's last game for Ireland.As for stats, they indicate the crucial areas of the game. Normally the winning team will have the best stats. The championship is now between England and Wales IMO. It will come down to point difference as Wales will probably beat England in Cardiff. I suspect England will win the championship though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Round 3 over and ????'s in the lead. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbeer Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Good job ????, I am impressed! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 So am I. I didn't even know he was interested in rugby. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Third despite a 25 pt deduction is decent. I'm happy.England and Scotland winning too - double bubble. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillaxed Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Sorry, Kiwi interloper here, but what does 'ABE'ers' mean? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Anyone But England.Basically, fans from inferior nations! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So am I. I didn't even know he was interested in> rugby.???? is probably a lot more dispassionate than you Mick when it comes to the rugby (and football) predictions, I suspect he predicts like he gambles, with his head not his heart... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Not quite anyone but England. I try really hard to like England and try to want them to win. My friends, wife and even my children are apparently English. But its really hard. Having said that I think I can be objective. Your team is boring. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I'd cite those grapes again MM if there wasn't a kernel of truth in that, you know, one of those kernels that reach the peel.I'll tell you a deep dark guilty secret, over the years my favourite team to watch has been France more often than not, though they're a bit shit at the moment. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillaxed Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Anyone But England. Basically, fans from inferior nations!Ah, makes sense. MM I have the same issue as you with England. My son and most of my friends are English, so I'm trying hard to like them. Didn't help when they walloped us a few months back though...Funny as I have no issue at all with supporting England in most other sports. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 First time at Twickenham on Saturday and found the atmosphere electric. As a Scot I'll say that the experience topped the last few times I've been to Murrayfield (and that was when we were winning). The celtic nations for various historic reasons don't love england but kiwis and the French feel similar. I saw three Frenchmen in kilts which was a nice touchOn the spectrum of sporting rivalry though, it has to be the most polite major international team sport in existence. No real segregation and beers flowing inside throughout.I think England will take it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Mick I just don't understand why you don't like stats?*looks at prediction league stats...top ???? -16bottom Mick mac -127...oh, I see Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9238-rugby-matters/page/16/#findComment-619859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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