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Went to the junction today to check the "scene of the event" to try and work out from the tyre marks on the road and the damage to the kerb, what were the contributing factors to the accident. Here are my observations and deductions. 1.Compaction type refuse collection trucks, such as these, are exceptionally "tail-heavy" due the the weight of the hydraulic compaction mechanism and the fact that this weight is positioned on the rear overhang ie behind the rear wheels. 2. To compensate for the extra weight, the truck is fitted with a "tag axle". The tag axle is located forward of the rearmost axle. When fully laden, all the rear tyres will be running at very close to their operating limit. 3. The tag axle has only 2 wheels as opposed to 4 wheels on the rearmost axle. So on either side at the rear, there a three wheels. So if one rear tyre on the near side has lost pressure, the weight carried by the remaining two is increased by 50%. 4. Being tail-heavy with a high centre of gravity, the driver of such vehicles should be ultra cautious when cornering. 5. When turning to the right, the weight imposed on near side tyres is further increased depending on the speed involved. 6. The two long curved tyre marks on the road suggest that only two of the 3 tyres on the near side were taking the weight. 7 These curved tyre marks end abruptly and I'm trying to work out exactly why. This spot is very close to where the near side rear wheels slide up against the kerb and the wheel rims gouge out chunks of the kerb stones. There is a possibility that the driver braked late and so caused the tyres to loose all grip and so slide into the kerb. If there are any forensic traffic experts around, I would welcome their take on this. -
I don't think there are stupid questions Sue. There are informative questions, policy questions, normative questions.... You suggest to do a sort of survey! Interesting idea but not for me as I have other priorities and if I do not address these with NHS doctors I will go, once again, privately. In any case as many people using this forum know, GP surgeries in England offer at present services that in most cases do not and cannot cover matters that are under the remit of secondary care - for instance rheumatologists clinics in hospitals. If the dismantlement of NHS England will bring possible positive changes also in primary care with more choices for people I do not know but I would really hope so because at the moment lot of people with chronic rheumatic conditions fall into the cracks of he system, that means are not seen by NHS rheumatologists that have long queues and cannot be cured by GPs neither in most cases, even when (I am sure about this and I would like to know more) there are physicians and local GPs fully qualified and experts to do such jobs even if they are not rheumatologists! Thank you for your time Sue and by the way if you do any survey like the one you mentioned please let us know. -
By Jenijenjen · Posted
There was a thread about this a year ago that included a post from the new owners. Be great to have an update - nothing seemed to be happening when I walked by last week. https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/343709-kenro-press-empty-shop-forest-hill-road/#comment-1662773 -
And don't the Veolia collection teams wear uniforms with Southwark Council logo on them...this might explain why the councillors were so keen to point out the lorry wasn't operated by the council because if you saw a load of people clambering out of the cab of a lorry one that just rolled wearing clothing emblazoned with the council logo you might think it was being operated by the council. The Helen Hayes reference is weird as well it was almost as if the councillor post was: this is awful, nothing to do with us, speak to Helen.
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