Siduhe Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I don't need them to make sense to anyone else. But it seems to be fine to criticise people for holding beliefs whereas it wouldn't be at all acceptable in this day and age to do the opposite. Have a debate all you want about whether green space is more important than burying dead people but it's the assumption that wanting to be buried isn't and can't ever be legitimate, whereas wanting green space is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 For me it's not green space specifically, but just space. Using land to put empty bodies under the ground in boxes just seems outdated. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 You can respect somebody's right to hold beliefs, without actually respecting their beliefs.We all have the right to believe whatever we want. Doesn't mean that society has an obligation to indulge them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think beliefs are a lazy man's way of avoiding trying to find out the answers to the questions which bother him.As for feet first graves, how would gravediggers manage to do that? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilservant Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 in places like Greece, Italy, Spain, where they believe strongly in the need to preserve the physical integrity of the body after death i.e. bury not cremate, it's quite customary to lease a burial plot for a fixed period of time. When this time is up, the bones are disinterred and re-buried more compactly - hence the catacombs and the ossuaries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary you see in many European cemeteries - so they can manage with a limited amount of burial space.It's only in England it seems that it's your bit of green and pleasant land for ever and ever, or at least until they build a car-park on top of you Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Totally genuine question here. Why if the body needs to be buried in order to keep it's integrity, is it then okay for that to be time limited? Surely it either needs to be buried in one piece or it doesn't? I just don't understand it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilservant Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Totally genuine question here. Why if the body> needs to be buried in order to keep its> integrity, is it then okay for that to be time> limited? Surely it either needs to be buried in> one piece or it doesn't? I just don't understand> it.neither do I and I'm not even trying to understand it because I suspect there's no logic to itif it's about taking a perfectly decent bit of wooded green space and turning it into a graveyard because the pious are worried about disturbing the long-dead in existing graveyards, then that just doesn't compute - other pious folk have no qualms about digging up their dead and repackaging them to fit the available space; it's done even in the best churches e.g. Westminster Abbeyor am I missing some element of religious orthodoxy here? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-948999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Is it acceptable to compress the decomposed remains into a 1 ft cube? Or do the bits of bones and mush need to be laid out in a certain pattern? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-949048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhistory Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 mynamehere Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> John K do some research as you're interested in> local history > > http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/06/recycled-graves> -coming-soon-to-a-cemetery-near-you/> > History is a slippy thing> Don't stop at the first thing you find. Cross> check and watch your sources of courseWell, I was going to let this go, but...Did you read the Spectator article? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/88776-have-you-thought-what-it-means-to-re-use-a-grave/page/4/#findComment-952407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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