Residents Parking - Where God Art Thou

[Sue]

No, I don't want resident's parking either.

[DonGee]

I sooo don't want Resdient parking.

[Lisa End]

I soooo do not want residents parking. It's a nightmare! There is a guy down my road who puts his bin out to save a space in front of the house - maybe try that!

[Moos]

On a road close to me, there's a guy who each time he moves one of his two cars will move the other just enough to block anyone else from taking the spot. Tosser. How selfish is that?

[Loz]

Moos - see if you can find a friend with a motorbike. Ask him/her to park it there. Or club together with your neighbours and buy an old a broken down one!

[Moos]

That is an excellent idea, and if I were not so stuffed with virtue to sink to his level, I would do it immediately.

*goes off in search of a bike*

[Alabama]

no, no, noooooo to resident's parking! I love being able to park outside my own house without paying for the privilege and having to go through both the council and royal mail everytime i need a new permit. visitors = nightmare too. I had permits in Merton but still could never get a space outside my house, or even on my road a lot of the time.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Psst. I might know someone with an electric bike ...

[Eileen]

JoJo09 Wrote:

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> no, no, noooooo to resident's parking! I love

> being able to park outside my own house without

> paying for the privilege and having to go through

> both the council and royal mail everytime i need a

> new permit. visitors = nightmare too. I had

> permits in Merton but still could never get a

> space outside my house, or even on my road a lot

> of the time.

I don?t want it either in my street because it wouldn?t solve our problem. But folks sometimes it DOES actually work. It all depends on exactly what the particular issues are in a particular street. Sometimes it helps and sometimes it doesn?t. So blanket being against isn?t really the best thing to say. Can we all just say that sometimes it is exactly the wrong thing to do and sometimes it might be just right, but before you think it is the right thing to do you have to be VERY clear exactly what the issue is and if it will really cure without bad effects?

[cathg]

The roads towards Herne Hill station do that "no parking between 12 and 2" thing, and while of course that does cause some displacement to the streets further out it keeps the commuters at bay. If it works there why wouldn't it work around ED station?

[Moos]

Eileen, you make a reasoned point, but I got the impression that most people were commenting on behalf of where they live, as we tend to do. So it sounds like a resounding - "No, we don't believe there is an issue on our streets that we think will be solved by residents' parking".

I lived in a residents' parking area previously, and it was expensive and a pain in the neck.

[kford]

Never had real problems with parking, and I live just off LL. Even on Saturdays when everyone's buying their meat, fish and silly trinkets. I've had to park around the corner a couple of times and that's it.

[peckhamboy]

We live very close to ED station and have never had a problem either, so it sounds as if the problem is restricted to very specific areas and/or very specific times and is probably not a huge one (albeit that I'm sure it's very annoying for the small proportion of residents affected by it). I certainly don't think that an ED-wide CPZ is the answer - strikes me as a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Perhaps a one or two hour resident-only parking slot in a few targeted streets would be sufficient, without causing massive headaches for residents as well? As a matter of principle, though, I'm opposed to any CPZ where residents have to pay for their own car (maybe a fee for a second car could be considered though) or for visitor parking within reasonable limits (eg 30 free visitor permits/year per household?).

[thelittlebigvoice]

I live on LL by the library - and now we'll have to put up with Sainsburys traffic - my god is it a conspiricy ?

[peckhamboy]

Surely the issue at that end of LL is far less to do with "people parking to catch buses into town" and far more to do with the fact that most houses are converted into flats and are situated on a main road with very limited parking? Each house has space for one car to park in front, so if it's divided into two flats and both flats have a car, one of you is parking outside someone else's house, which pushes their car onto the next house and so on. 100 cars into 60 spaces just doesn't go.

A CPZ won't solve that one I'm afraid, but will just add an extra layer of nuisance to everyone else's lives.

[karter]

Thelittlebigvoice, it's not a conspiracy it's just business and having CPZ at that end of LL would just not make any sense IMO.

[SeanMacGabhann]

peckhamboy - are you me?

logic didn't work then either...

[Loz]

100 cars into 60 spaces just doesn't go.

...and with a CPZ the equation will probably drop to 100 cars into 50 spaces as the total number of spaces tends to drop because they put lots more yellow lines in.

[thexwinglessxbird]

I think I'm gonna get myself a car, to simply put outside my house & stop my neighbour from parking theirs infront of mine.

[Eileen]

Moos Wrote:

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> Eileen, you make a reasoned point, but I got the

> impression that most people were commenting on

> behalf of where they live, as we tend to do. So

> it sounds like a resounding - "No, we don't

> believe there is an issue on our streets that we

> think will be solved by residents' parking".> I lived in a residents' parking area previously,

> and it was expensive and a pain in the neck.

Well yes Moos. But I noticed that when someone says they think it would work in their location it stimulates a lot of anti messages, for good reasons. I just know that when we were threatened with an extension to the Peckham town centre CPZ here which would have affected a lot of new streets, some of the people who might actually have been helped by a small tweaking of the boundary found it hard to get a decent hearing. This was because those where it wouldn?t be sensible tended to make blanket statements about not wanting it at all in our overall area. And similarly, some who wanted it also made blanket statements about it being a good thing overall. So it diverted attention from the specifics. Just passing on that experience, that it is really important not to have blanket approaches and also to be very detailed in examining the precise issues even sometimes down to a junction or small part of a street.

Indeed in this exchange JDR said (see November 15, 11:14PM above): ""Afraid that I'm going to completely disagree with most of the above. We are now part of the residents parking zone in Peckham. (Previously the first street with free parking to Peckham Rye station)."" That is very close to my street but it doesn?t invalidate that it can be wrong for my street while right for JDR?s.

[catma]

Don't want residents parking but do want the person who parks up several cars in my street with for sale signs and leaves them there for MONTHS AT A TIME to park them outside their own property instead of mine.

Local councillor assures me that council officials have spoken to person re this and I'm fairly certain it's not legal to sell cars like this (in multiples, I mean) but they're still there.

I don't need to park outside my house every day but once in a while to wash/hoover it out isn't too much to ask, surely!