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Grok

Grok

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But that is my point. The police, govt etc do know about these areas, behave differently within/towards these areas, and absolutely deny they exist.


Otta Wrote:

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> And if the police don't know about something, then

> they're not going to be scared of it are they?

LondonMix

LondonMix

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You believe there are places so radicalised by terrorism in London the police won't go there? And that when the Met police, the mayor and the PM all said that isn't true after Trump's statement they were all lying? And you believe that while no one can name where these places are (including Katie Hopkins when questioned) that they exist? And the fact that there was a weed farm above Threshers most people were unaware of proves that no go areas exist even though no one can name them? Is that the gist of what you are saying?





Grok Wrote:

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> But that is my point. The police, govt etc do know

> about these areas, behave differently

> within/towards these areas, and absolutely deny

> they exist.

>

> Otta Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > And if the police don't know about something,

> then

> > they're not going to be scared of it are they?

Grok

Grok

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Your compatriot said it!

No, I know that there are no go areas for police that allow all kinds of criminality to continue/grow and this includes predominantly muslim occupied areas where radicalisation can breed etc.

Yes, they were lying. Shock horror.

I do not read katie hopkins.

Am surprised you dont wsnt to nuke em all.

Maybe the powers that be dont give a stuff that the white underclass, the non white groups etc are preying on one another, huh? Maybe thats why there are no go areas because if theyre causing misery to their own they aint hurting us and they deserve it?

How many prosecutions have resulted from FGM in the UK? Still happens every day though doesnt it? Why? Because its allowed to? Same principle.


LondonMix Wrote:

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> You believe there are places so radicalised by

> terrorism in London the police won't go there?

> And that when the Met police, the mayor and the PM

> all said that isn't true after Trump's statement

> they were all lying? And you believe that while

> no one can name where these places are (including

> Katie Hopkins when questioned) that they exist?

> And the fact that there was a weed farm above

> Threshers most people were unaware of proves that

> no go areas exist even though no one can name

> them? Is that the gist of what you are saying?

>

>

>

>

> Grok Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > But that is my point. The police, govt etc do

> know

> > about these areas, behave differently

> > within/towards these areas, and absolutely deny

> > they exist.

> >

> > Otta Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > And if the police don't know about something,

> > then

> > > they're not going to be scared of it are they?

LondonMix

LondonMix

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Grok-- what you are referring to (rightly or wrongly) would be police / social indifference. We can debate if that's true but its not at all the same thing as suggesting the police can't go there because its too dangerous due to Islamic radicalisation to step foot in those neighbourhoods. There is a big difference between the two notions.
maxxi

maxxi

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LondonMix Wrote:

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> He's not ignorant, he's manipulative. He

> knowingly says things that are wildly factually

> incorrect (not just about immigrants and Muslims)


Sorry I'm lost - are we talking Trump here or is it just Grok?

Grok

Grok

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What you call social indifference stems from throwing all the 'crap' into run down housing estates etc be the crap white underclass, black, muslim, immigrant etc. Then estate mentality builds up, is accepted and flourishes. These then become no go areas for reasons outlined above. It is then too dangerous to do much of anything because nicking a kid for stealing a car then becomes a war with an entire street/estate/neighbourhood and all the bad publicity/resources/accusations etc Vs nicking a kid for stealing a car.

The number and type of crimes then escalate and nothing is done by cops. Ergo no go!

Where would be a good place to find and try to radicalise people? Oh I know how about a no go area with the type of people im looking for at the centre of it. Police wont come, community are scared/have got my back. Job done.

Did you never see the news of stickers being placed on lampposts and other public furniture stating no homosexuals as sharia laws in this area, no dog walking etc and other such ludicrous stickers appearing in certain east london areas? No council or cops removing offending stickers straight away, but meetings and discussions and denials and arguements and softly softly before removal of stickers.

Trump is too stupid to think of these things. He repeats what he is told. He is told more than you because he has money. Yes, i believe such areas exist.


LondonMix Wrote:

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> Grok-- what you are referring to (rightly or

> wrongly) would be police / social indifference.

> We can debate if that's true but its not at all

> the same thing as suggesting the police can't go

> there because its too dangerous due to Islamic

> radicalisation to step foot in those

> neighbourhoods. There is a big difference between

> the two notions.

uncleglen

uncleglen

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The lamp post stickers were in Leyton

http://mylondondiary.co.uk/2011/07/jul.htm


There was a Channel 4 documentary later on where an undercover reporter entered Sharia 'court' in a backroom of a shop in Leyton.

But there was this

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/06/muslim-vigilantes-jailed-sharia-law-attacks-london

There is hope

DaveR

DaveR

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It's obvious that there are parts of London (and I'm sure other big cities) where the police are either going to take more precautions going in than in more placid parts of town, whilst at the same time try to be softly softly to avoid big confrontations. In fact, trying to reconcile these two things is one of the big difficulties, and it is particularly acute in big estates that are essentially enclosed and to an extent cut off from wider communities. But the Trump point was specific - there are 'no go areas' and the cause is radicalised muslims. And that's rubbish. As is all the Grok being spouted above - stickers on lamp posts and cannabis farms FFS.
LondonMix

LondonMix

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Okay, because you think the police don't care about crime in poor areas (again, your assumption) from there you extrapolate that the areas have become so radicalized that the police won't go there?


Is that the argument? Where in London are these terrorist radicalized areas that are no go areas for the police?




Grok Wrote:

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> What you call social indifference stems from

> throwing all the 'crap' into run down housing

> estates etc be the crap white underclass, black,

> muslim, immigrant etc. Then estate mentality

> builds up, is accepted and flourishes. These then

> become no go areas for reasons outlined above. It

> is then too dangerous to do much of anything

> because nicking a kid for stealing a car then

> becomes a war with an entire

> street/estate/neighbourhood and all the bad

> publicity/resources/accusations etc Vs nicking a

> kid for stealing a car.

> The number and type of crimes then escalate and

> nothing is done by cops. Ergo no go!

> Where would be a good place to find and try to

> radicalise people? Oh I know how about a no go

> area with the type of people im looking for at the

> centre of it. Police wont come, community are

> scared/have got my back. Job done.

> Did you never see the news of stickers being

> placed on lampposts and other public furniture

> stating no homosexuals as sharia laws in this

> area, no dog walking etc and other such ludicrous

> stickers appearing in certain east london areas?

> No council or cops removing offending stickers

> straight away, but meetings and discussions and

> denials and arguements and softly softly before

> removal of stickers.

> Trump is too stupid to think of these things. He

> repeats what he is told. He is told more than you

> because he has money. Yes, i believe such areas

> exist.

>

> LondonMix Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Grok-- what you are referring to (rightly or

> > wrongly) would be police / social indifference.

>

> > We can debate if that's true but its not at all

> > the same thing as suggesting the police can't

> go

> > there because its too dangerous due to Islamic

> > radicalisation to step foot in those

> > neighbourhoods. There is a big difference

> between

> > the two notions.

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