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I have been following the threads regarding the significant cuts to train services in Central South London, i.e. Zone 2.

Following from this i went to a public meeting to discuss the matter, held last night.



The facts are shocking; summary below.

Read the details of the cuts below, they are pretty shocking

? PECKHAM RYE: Trains cut from 8 last year down to 4 per hour by 2012 to London Bridge. Trains to Victoria will be cut from 4 to 2 and 0 in the evening.

The BLACKFRIARS service will be up for review in 2011/2012

? QUEENS ROAD PECKHAM & SOUTH BERMONDSEY: Trains cut from 8 to london bridge last year, down to 4 by 2012

There are currently 2 trains going to victoria. By 2012 there will be 0 trains going to victoria.

? DENMARK HILL: 2 Trains to London Bridge & 4 to Victoria - you will have NO trains going to london bridge by 2012

and just the two trains to Victoria in Day Times only.

? CLAPHAM HIGH STREET & WANDSWORTH: 2 Trains currently go to London Bridge & Victria - this will be cut to 0 by 2012. So even more crowds at Clapham North Tube station...

? NUNHEAD: The plans for an evening train service have been axed


? EAST DULWICH: Trains cut from 6 per hour to 4 per hour (in last 12 months) to London Bridge



Is it just me or is this a massive massive event for everyone that lives in the local area?

i don't even use the train to get to work but i understand how VITAL it is in order to keep South London part of central london and not go backwards again.

Infrastructure is surely CORE to an area?

South London's transport service does not compare to North London's and instead of improving it's getting worse!


The meeting last night was predominantly middle aged, white people. Where were the students? Where were the young 20-30s people? Is this because no one has heard of this scandal or is it just pure apathy?


I can't understand why everyone isn't incensed by this news and will impact everyone....


rant over

I wasn't there as I was prepping the next day's work until after midnight.


I, like you, don't use the trains to commute daily (I'm an occasional user), but I'm also concerned about such a deterioration to what is already an indifferent service.


Was Jowell there? If not, we need to write to her.

MPs were few and far between because of the labour party conference clash, i think.

There's a thread in the general section where steady eddy outlines some ideas on how we can help with the campaign

As minnows, the best we can do is keep talking about it and telling our friends/neighbours about the facts and hope that enough people care, make a fuss and perhaps attend the question time with boris on November 9th.


Hopefully this will make TFL/Boris make a U-turn on the decision.


fingers xed

Everyone isn't incensed by the news, because the issue isn't as clear cut as you make out.


The rail service is a network, and the objective of the changes is to increase the total amount of passengers serviced across South London, rather than simply the service affecting East Dulwich.


The misrepresentation of the situation by an enraged minority may well be putting people right off the support.

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