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???? Wrote:

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> In '92 I felt utter despair that the Tories won

> the election...I think I'll feel pretty similar if

> Labour win the next one.


I just feel this time ill be disappointed whoever wins. I thought labour would be great but after early promise they lost their way. Now im old and cynical no party seems to offer obvious improvement.

Has your politics changed over time quids?

I think mine has but i dont think there is a party that can govern this country due to perceived poor parenting and political correctness protecting bad behaviour of our youth in and out of school. If i wanted a party to pursue one change it would be to make parents take more responsibility for their childrens actions and behaviour up to age 18. An increased sense of responsibility in families might help the uk in the long run.

I've given up on the traditional major parties although I've always dressed to the left so to speak I can't relate to what was the once Labour Party anymore, not this "new" nonsense anyway which is Conservative Lite. I've gone Green but am probably better described as a non-aligned radical, which isn't saying much.

Anyone who thinks the Sun does not have political influence should read this:



There is a rather apt section in Campbell's diaries (via the Telegraph) in which he recalls Neil Kinnock's objection, back in the mid-1990s, to Blair and Brown's dangerous strategy of cosying up to Murdoch, and the former Labour leader's prescient warning about the potential for duplicity:


Neil Kinnock exploded with rage at Campbell over Mr Blair's decision to fly to Australia try to woo Rupert Murdoch's tabloid Sun to the New Labour cause.


The row erupted in the south of France in 1995 where Campbell and his family were on holiday having invited Mr Kinnock and his wife Glenys Kinnock, who were close friends, to stay.


"He's sold out even before he has got there,'' Kinnock raged as he clutched a kettle full of boiling water which Campbell feared was heading in his direction.


"Tax, health, education, unions, full employment, race immigration, everything, he's totally sold out. What are we for?


''It won't matter if we win as the bankers and stockbrokers have got us already by the f*****g balls. And that is before you take your 30 pieces of silver." Challenged to explain what he meant, he spat out: "Murdoch." Kinnock, said: "You imagine what its like having your head stuck inside a f*****g light bulb then tell me how I am supposed to feel when you set off halfway round the world to grease him up."


He was referring to the front page of the Sun on polling day in 1992 under the headline: "Last one out turn the lights off."


Campbell countered that they had given Murdoch nothing but Kinnock said: "You will. And he will take it. You will get his support and then you will get the support of a few racist b*******, and then you'll lose it again the minute that we are in trouble."


How right you were Neil...and how foolish (and now hypocritical) Blair, Brown, Mandelson, Campbell, Prescott and the rest have been...

How about Mackenzie (then Sun editor) to Major at the end of Black Wednesday..when Major called him


Major: "Erm, well Kevin how are you going to treat us tomorrow?"


Kevin mC: "Well Prime Minister, it's like this, on my desk I have a huge bucket of shit and tomorrow I'm going to pour it all over your head"


Next days headline: "Now we've all been screwed by the Cabinet"

???? Wrote:

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> How about Mackenzie (then Sun editor) to Major at

> the end of Black Wednesday..when Major called him

>

> Major: "Erm, well Kevin how are you going to treat

> us tomorrow?"



Kelvin: Who the fuck is "Kevin", my name is Kelvin - Have you completely lost it Prime Minister? I hate people getting my name wrong and I'm going to screw you tomorrow.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> How right you were Neil...and how foolish (and now

> hypocritical) Blair, Brown, Mandelson, Campbell,

> Prescott and the rest have been...


And, Neil, how detached you were from real-world politics.



"What are we for?", Neil asked, shaking with rage.


"Winning", Campbell probably thought.

???? Wrote:

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> Was it Mc or a Mac by the way pedant?


I was making a joke, but not intended to be at your expense Quids.


I have just noticed I have got my own name wrong - I should be "Mc" - I must change that before someone picks me up on it.

Annasfield Wrote:

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> I imagine certain scum readers are influenced by

> it. Horrible rag.

>

> Don't buy the S*n



Woodley, the joint general secretary of Unite, urged Britain to follow the example of Liverpool where thousands of readers boycotted the paper after it blamed fans for the Hillsborough football stadium disaster.


"We do not need an Australian/American coming to our country with a paper that has never supported one progressive policy and telling us how politics should be run in this country," he told the conference in Brighton.


As he shredded the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch, he added: "In Liverpool we learnt a long time ago what to do. I just wish the rest of the country would do the same thing."

Mic Mac - I have to say I'm impressed - 46 posts from you today starting at 08.30 this morning all the way through to 11.36 tonight (and still going).


You'll be giving Keef a run for his money soon - are you in gainful employment and if so, can I have your job please?

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