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steveo Wrote:

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> I did many illegal bikey things as a yoot and back

> then would have thought this was a fine act of

> stick-it-to-the-man rebellion, and even joined

> in.

>

> Now I am old I want them all strapped to a tree so

> the dogs can piss on them

>

> On the upside it might keep the trick and treaters

> confined to barracks next year

HopOne Wrote:

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> "On Halloween, my neighbour said some guy caught

> his own motorcycle on fire riding around Hilly

> Fields letting off fireworks"

>

> This guy?

> https://twitter.com/TheoTGH/status/660534945035759

> 617



That looks like it. We saw the fireworks from Ladywell, but didn't realise it was related to the motorcycles. I don't think they came through Ladywell, since the eastbound traffic through Ladywell tends to hit a bottle neck at Lewisham High St.


We saw a few on Lewisham High St heading towards Catford on our way home. I guess they were stragglers by that time. I'm sure my daughter would have been terrified if they had come through the neighbourhoods. However, don't be under any illusion that would have stopped her trick-or-treating. The power of free sugar over children is QUITE persuasive!

I've had a read through the online reports and found a few of the guys on instagram and twitter. They certainly aren't as young as I expected (28-34) and really should know better by now, some being fathers etc. No helmets, riding on the pavement and not giving a toss whether anyone on the pavement gets hurt. There were so many tiny kids where I live having to dive out of the way into front gardens and a fair amount of abuse hurled when anyone gestured for them to slow down.

On another note, the firework thing is incredibly dangerous too. On saturday my sister's house was set alight by a stray firework, 80% damage and now they have nowhere to live.

I think the police will be able to identify some of those involved by number plates..


As well as fines and bans I would (but it's not up to me) have their bikes put through the crusher.


Would seem fair to me.


DulwichFox

Article in the Evening Standard tonight saying they stole petrol from a station in Streatham en masse. The police are looking at CCTV footage apparently. Take a look at their facebook page UK Raise It Up - lot's of people telling them how stupid they are!

Jeremy Wrote:

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> I'm sure last time this subject was raised,

> someone suggested it was the council's fault for

> not building a proper track for them to use...



This is what the riders themselves are suggesting. From yesterday's Evening Standard:


"Last night the organisers claimed the ride was arranged to show stunt riders have nowhere to pursue their hobby legally.

They said 'We still have nowhere to ride. What else can you expect. There is not one place we can ride or stunt legally.

It will only get worse. The time has come to start a petition and we will take it as far as possible to get it approved.'"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hundreds-of-masked-bikers-rampage-through-south-london-on-dangerous-halloween-rideout-a3104341.html

Seen this on met police news section


Please anyone witness,photos locations seen they need to know to catch them as crime was committed in south London by them.


If you go to met police site under news or crime watch you will see link details who to contact regarding this group from.lambeth.

Inkmaiden Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I'm sure last time this subject was raised,

> > someone suggested it was the council's fault

> for

> > not building a proper track for them to use...

>

>

> This is what the riders themselves are suggesting.

> From yesterday's Evening Standard:

>

> "Last night the organisers claimed the ride was

> arranged to show stunt riders have nowhere to

> pursue their hobby legally.

> They said 'We still have nowhere to ride. What

> else can you expect. There is not one place we can

> ride or stunt legally.

> It will only get worse. The time has come to start

> a petition and we will take it as far as possible

> to get it approved.'"

> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hundreds-of-

> masked-bikers-rampage-through-south-london-on-dang

> erous-halloween-rideout-a3104341.html



"The time has come to start a petition and we will take it as far as possible to get it approved.'"



Okay so start a petition then you cocks.

Otta Wrote:

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> Inkmaiden Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Jeremy Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > I'm sure last time this subject was raised,

> > > someone suggested it was the council's fault

> > for

> > > not building a proper track for them to

> use...

> >

> >

> > This is what the riders themselves are

> suggesting.

> > From yesterday's Evening Standard:

> >

> > "Last night the organisers claimed the ride was

> > arranged to show stunt riders have nowhere to

> > pursue their hobby legally.

> > They said 'We still have nowhere to ride. What

> > else can you expect. There is not one place we

> can

> > ride or stunt legally.

> > It will only get worse. The time has come to

> start

> > a petition and we will take it as far as

> possible

> > to get it approved.'"

> >

> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hundreds-of-

>

> >

> masked-bikers-rampage-through-south-london-on-dang

>

> > erous-halloween-rideout-a3104341.html

>

>

> "The time has come to start a petition and we will

> take it as far as possible to get it approved.'"

>

>

> Okay so start a petition then you cocks.


Apparently they can't use any of the legitimate dirt tracks in the South East and want one on their door step. Twunts. It's risible that they think that having had their social media exploits backfire so badly (its simple to work out who they are now) that they're trying to turn this round with "an imminent press release".


mrure26 Wrote:

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> I read that police could not trail them as they

> had no helmets!


That's what we get for having Labour in power for 13 years.

In practice (and assuming the police were not otherwise engaged) it would be possible, using police helicopters as spotters, to 'kettle' the riders, blocking roads to channel them somewhere where they can be stopped. This avoids the dangers of chasing them. Even where they are split up rather than wholly kettled, the impact of their riding will be much reduced on the neighbourhood.


There have been numbers of accidents arising from police pursuits - and these would be exacerbated where riders (although more fool them) do not have helmets.

Is going round and round and round a dirt track, KFC, then back to the dirt track to go round and round some more - likely to offer the same thrill as cruising the streets with a hankie on your face, flipping 'the bird' to, like, the system and stuff? Doubtful.

ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:

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> mrure26 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I read that police could not trail them as they

> > had no helmets!

>

> That's what we get for having Labour in power for

> 13 years.


It's all Labour's fault.

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > mrure26 Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > I read that police could not trail them as

> they

> > > had no helmets!

> >

> > That's what we get for having Labour in power

> for

> > 13 years.

>

> It's all Labour's fault.


H&S nonsense became rampant under Labour. Whatever happened to the adage of 'can't do the time, don't do the crime'.

The thing is, since when did it become the duty of councils to ensure that everyone could access their chosen hobby locally. If I took up hang gliding I'd need to go somewhere with a cliff to jump off, I wouldn't expect the local authority to erect one.

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