Large gang of motorcyclists racing up and down the streets and doing wheelies

[mumra]

Yep, nearly knocked us off the pavement nr The Gowlett last night around 11. They showed no signs of stopping and don't think there were any police after them at that point.

[Northern Star]

We had to stop our car when driving on lordship lane by the south circular as so many of them were going past on both sides of the car, weaving in and out in front of us. Quite a few went up the pavement. Many also going in the opposite lane meeting traffic head on. An accident could have easily happened.

[edd]

Still, at least they chose a night when there wouldn't be loads of little kiddies out late in dark clothes.

Oh wait........

Idiots. Roared through FH too (though earlier than ED, by the sound of it).

[Tony 007]

It was worse in brixton last night more than 100 on bikes and quad bike all wearing mask I took a video of them it lasted 48second that's how many of them the was

[Kamonfeek]

Took my five year old out trick or treating and saw the tail end of these idiots speeding up Forest Hill road past Francesca Cabrini school towards Honor Oak Road Forest Hill way. Weaving over both sides of the road and onto pavements with total disregard for anyones safety, motorbikes and quad bikes. Quite scary for my daughter, freind of mine posted a video of them going through Streatham, literally over a hundred easy. Massive bunch of twats.

[i*Rate]

It's the Mods and Rockers days all over again-form a gang and get on the streets but today we have Social Media to organise it better.

How the police will will deal with it, who knows?

Ever see any police around?

Rev it up! Cheers!

[Blah Blah]

The Police were all at the Lambeth rave riot I think.

[macutd]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/01/hundreds-of-bikers-london-streets-halloween-rideout

[Earl Aelfheah]

What a bunch of massive bellends

[Blah Blah]

Hard to know what the police can do about mass anti-social riding. Sadly it will probably take something tragic to happen first. Looking at the footage online, it seems that it was a minority of riders on the pavemnts though. There's nothing new about motor cycle rallies. How to tackle the anti-social element is the problem.

[bawdy-nan]

There's quite a lot of footage on youtube now and there's absolutely loads of illegal and dangerous behaviour: riding on pavements, riding right across both lanes, riding without helmets, speeding. All which made much worse because of the number and also because they did this down residential streets (woodwarde road and side streets, for example) that were full of children in the dark. There's no doubt that there's excitement to be had in "occupying" en masse the roads of London but the police response is pathetic and outrageous.

[Blah Blah]

I agree the Police response is pathetic (which is why I said it might take a tragic incident to force them to act) but what can they realistically do against 100 moped/ bike riders? At best they can catch and prosecute one or two for traffic offences. That will hardly stop similar events from happening will it?

[uncleglen]

And there was an illegal rave or something in London where petrol bombs were being thrown- it seems that these yobs and anarchists know the police are stretched and are taking the opportunity to make complete nuisances of themselves. Examples will need to be made of the perps that are caught, or the general public will mete out its own justice

[ratty]

uncleglen Wrote:

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Examples will need to be made of the

> perps that are caught, or the general public will

> mete out its own justice

What????

[steveo]

I would think the police are examining YouTube clips, CCTV and FB for ringleaders and stolen bikes. To have chased them around would have made things much worse.

[JoeLeg]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> And there was an illegal rave or something in

> London where petrol bombs were being thrown- it

> seems that these yobs and anarchists know the

> police are stretched

The police shut that whole thing down, they weren't so stretched they couldn't handle it.

Examples will need to be made of the

> perps that are caught, or

the general public will

> mete out its own justice

What?! Put them in the stocks? Bring back Borstal? Public flogging?

And as for your other opinion...yes, that's just what the police want, people taking the law into their own hands. That'll make their job easier, of course. No need for the niceties of proof, evidence, due process and so on, just kick seven bells out of some youngster that you think isn't being respectful. Which is exactly what would happen.

[rabbitears]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> And there was an illegal rave or something in

> London where petrol bombs were being thrown

The "petrol bomb" line was classic Met misinformation bollocks. They fed the line to the media as "a suspected petrol bomb was reportedly thrown", and then issued a release that said "a reported petrol bomb". There was no photo or video of such a thing, the Met did not formally claim one was thrown and there was only ever one spoke of.

But the target audience for the misinformation inferred exactly what they wanted you to infer - that there was an urban battle between police and anarchists where the sky was lit by the light of a thousand Molotovs - rather than cops using a few arseholes as an excuse to beat people with batons at an unlicensed disco.

[Earl Aelfheah]

rabbitears Wrote:

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> uncleglen Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > And there was an illegal rave or something in

> > London where petrol bombs were being thrown

>

> The "petrol bomb" line was classic Met

> misinformation bollocks. They fed the line to the

> media as "a suspected petrol bomb was reportedly

> thrown", and then issued a release that said "a

> reported petrol bomb". There was no photo or video

> of such a thing, the Met did not formally claim

> one was thrown and there was only ever one spoke

> of.

>

> But the target audience for the misinformation

> inferred exactly what they wanted you to infer -

> that there was an urban battle between police and

> anarchists where the sky was lit by the light of a

> thousand Molotovs - rather than cops using a few

> arseholes as an excuse to beat people with batons

> at an unlicensed disco.

Yes, the petrol bomb thing sounds extremely dubious to me. That said, if you're going to organise a weekend long rave (which was the original intention), there are better places to locate it than in a densely populated, residential area of central london. Really what did the organisers think was going to happen? It was always going to be shut down

[Earl Aelfheah]

Meanwhile anyone caught driving at 25mph on Sydenham Hill will feel the full force of the law.

[JoeLeg]

>

> Yes, the petrol bomb thing sounds extremely

> dubious to me. That said, if you're going to

> organise a weekend long rave (which was the

> original intention), there are better places to

> locate it than in a densely populated, residential

> area of central london. Really what did the

> organisers think was going to happen? It was

> always going to be shut down

I don't believe the petrol bomb thing for a moment - it'd be all over the media if it really happened.

Regarding the organisers, if they're anything like the kind of people I used to know (and I readily admit this was in the 90's!), they probably had naive belief that if they behaved themselves they'd be left alone. Back then squat parties etc that were 'sensible' got ignored; I even remember police turning up to the door of some of them just to check there was nothing they were needed for, being very pleasant and then leaving us alone. Varied wildly from borough to borough of course. City of London police were the most open-minded, strangely.

Anyway, that was then. Nowadays? Different story indeed.

[fishboy]

Back to the hooligans on bikes, a couple of things no-one seems to have mentioned. These amoebas have been riding around the area like this for months, usually on a Sunday and in smaller groups, but still in a pathetic, childishly reckless manner. Also the bikes are mostly off-road / motocross, which are therefore not road legal - no MoT, no insurance, no tax, no lights, and obviously no number plates. These aren't 'motorcyclists', they're not even 'bikers', they're just antisocial pond life on scramblers, making everyone's life just that little bit more miserable and unpleasant. No idea how the authorities can do anything, no amount of CCTV will identify any of them without registrations, just hope they get bored or see sense before someone gets hurt.

[Otta]

Yep it's been going on a while (although not on this scale). Bunch of stupid spoilt little cunts.

Frankly if one of them came off his bike in front of me I'd be laughing as I called the ambulance.

[Saffron]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> I agree the Police response is pathetic (which is

> why I said it might take a tragic incident to

> force them to act) but what can they realistically

> do against 100 moped/ bike riders? At best they

> can catch and prosecute one or two for traffic

> offences. That will hardly stop similar events

> from happening will it?

I was wondering the same thing. Once the event is underway, I think it becomes very hard to police. However, didn't the same event happen in S London last year? And wasn't this year's event coordinated via social media in advance? So if the Met pulls their finger out, they could have better policing in place next year to keep it from reaching critical mass (maybe)?

I'm not opposed to riding out and having a laugh, but on the pavements and doing stupid illegal stuff is going to end in tears.

[Saffron]

Otta Wrote:

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> Yep it's been going on a while (although not on

> this scale). Bunch of stupid spoilt little @#$%&.

>

> Frankly if one of them came off his bike in front

> of me I'd be laughing as I called the ambulance.

I've regularly seen groups on Lewisham Way / Loampit Vale the last few weeks.

On Halloween, my neighbour said some guy caught his own motorcycle on fire riding around Hilly Fields letting off fireworks (I didn't see it, as we were at a party in Ladywell). Funnily enough, she didn't mention anyone calling an ambulance. I guess he was ok?! :-0 I wonder if anyone turned up at Lewisham A&E with a burnt bottom??? Good luck explaining that to the night staff.

[steveo]

I did many illegal bikey things as a yoot and back then would have thought this was a fine act of stick-it-to-the-man rebellion, and even joined in.

Now I am old I want them all strapped to a tree so the dogs can piss on them

On the upside it might keep the trick and treaters confined to barracks next year