newgirl Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Has anyone heard anything about the big derelict school building on Peckham Rye near to the end of Friern Road? I'm moving into the block next door and wondered if the school is going to be developed. I called Southwark Planning dept, but they were a bit clueless. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Is there anything Southwark Planning AREN'T clueless about? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 That's a massive one, check out this recent link... http://education.independent.co.uk/schools/article324225.ece . Seems to be a bit of a row over who's going to fund it. With ED as a putative independent secular state I support EDEN's campaign to keep out the god-botherers, but the alternative as a City Academy experimental school isn't particularly attractive.Surely in the meantime we can turn it into a battery chicken pen of over-priced yuppie flats, and then let cowled 14 year old youths with no school to go to prowl the streets with blades and relieve them of their wallets? Share the wealth, learn a trade and all that?Yes yes, I know that I too am arriviste. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Sorry, just realised I wasn't clear - the second location for the Waverley project would be the site you're referring to. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewP Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Whilst I support the EDEN campaign, their stance on this is a bit baffling - results from Church run schools are significantly better than secular ones. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Not so Andrew, a common misconception though. A report commissioned by the Department of Education and Skills from the London School of Economics says that "religious affiliation of schools has little impact on their results. Church of England and Roman Catholic schools have fewer children from poor backgrounds and are more likely to be targeted by pushy parents.The report focuses on the social intake and exam results of England?s 16,000 primary schools. ?There is clear positive selection of pupils into faith schools on the basis of observable characteristics that are favourable to education ? even when we compare pupils that originate in the same block of residential housing,? it says. ?Any performance impact from ?faith? schools in England seems to be closely linked to autonomous governance and admissions arrangements, and not to religious character.?The report says that pupils in religious schools are more likely to be white, and to have English as their first language and less likely to come from a family on a low income.The report found that voluntary aided schools (which are run by the church with public money) had some opportunity to covertly pick pupils based on what they could observe about pupils and their family background." Read the full report here (pdf) or on the Telegraph websiteIn this modern age when reasonable people are trying to bring cultures together to live in harmony, it's a shame that they still bring up children in schools dominated by superstitious beliefs which install into them an 'Us' and 'Them' attitude. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
batdog Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 According to the council the school is to be completely refurbished as a Boys school and due to open its doors sometimes in 2009.... But that's all I know and it is officialbatdog Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewP Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 MarkThe LSE/DfES report you refer to only looks at faith-based primary schools. EDEN is campaigning for a secondary school.It is not at all obvious to me that the conclusions from LSE/DfES report apply to secondary schools.Has a similar study been carried out on secondary schools?Andrew Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I don't know if a similar study has been carried out on secondary schools but then who needs proof when it comes to religion? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/78-derelict-school/#findComment-750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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