Lordship Lane 1994

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only in the lounge dave, admin will have you

[DaveR]

Couldn't resist it

[Ditz]

Wow! I lived in East Dulwich from 1990 to 1992 and have never strayed too far since. I always oggle at how much it's changed and contnues to change, the most notable things being:

The proliferation of French in shop names

The proliferation of shops selling nothing but fipperies (we call North Cross Road Trinket Alley)

The proliferation of bruised ankles due to increased buggy population

The cycle of independent butchers and greengrocers existing then disapperaing and now returning (albeit at a premium)

The DHSS now being Foxtons - says it all really

And this is all said affectionately, I do love the place... :o)

[Chase Dulwit]

Aren't most shops stationary?

[Dr De Soto]

Green and Blue. I'm told the left hand half as viewed from the street was Redgewells, and before that an Italian. The right half, added to G&B when they expanded, was an empty shop for years. The Jewellers shop was elsewhere (it was a strange dark shop, behind mesh, had to press a button to enter).

[YellowC]

The jeweller's shop was where Celestial is now, with the lovely double-fronted curved-glass frontage to display the not-so-classy toot. I used to pop in whenever I needed a new battery for my watch.

Health Matters was a beauty salon until, maybe, 98. It was run by the lovely Malachi. Then it briefly became an ill-fated nail salon.

No-one has mentioned the barber shop and Western Union money transfer place by the roundabout, possibly where Sugar is now? Was it Geoff's video shop before that?

Janice Hendrickson used to have a room at the back of the ladies' hair salon, where Roullier White is now. From there she opened her own massage and beauty salon in Upland Road. Recently, she moved her business to Sydenham.

[Reg Smeeton]

Thought I'd revive this thread, I've made a couple of updates but corrections and further updates needed.

Reg.

[chichirara]

I spent many a happy hour in the Charity shop up by the guns and dolls shop. Moved in the month Sainsburys opened and the week the boot fair on Peckham Rye stopped May 1992. Transylvanian Travel? and an amusement arcade on Northcross, fabric shop and John's junk shop on Upland, shoe shop where Barrys have expanded and the Pantry also on Upland

[DulwichFox]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> It was The Star Of India. I remember it well. Had

> many a late one in there.

It was actually called Golden Tandoori. I still have a Business Card somewhere

I knew Farouk and his father well. Did a lot of work for him back in the 80's

Mirash Rest. manager told me Farouk is still around and not doing too bad.

Fox

[KidKruger]

Had some classic extremely late nights at Farouks, a heavy night out in town at a club or something then back to ED at a stupid hour to find Farouks is STILL open, so in we'd go for poppadums and chutney (to give impression of food) and lashings of lager...

[minder]

Somerfield was something before that and before that and then before that was an 'International' as I remember taking my Mum shopping there in the 80s in my red Ford Escort!

Binesters toy shop was around where the new St Christopher's charity shop is, as I shopped there from 1992 until it closed (shame) as it was like the Just William's at the Goose Green roundabout now.

Agree with FredRicketts about the Dulwich Club, which used to be opposite Farmers. Spent many a good time there with my Mum and Dad, sisters, family, friends, up until around 11 years ago when it closed. I remember the ballroom and my Mum and Dad dancing and the Christmas times and New Years do's there. My Mum and Dad were members there from the late 1960s.

Also, Reg, your comments (from 2009) about the Magdala are not very nice (3 people)?

The Magdala was THE place to be when I was a teenager (I started going there from 1980) and was shoulder to shoulder packed. I went in there a few years ago and it's a totally different now. There used to be a square shaped arena for the DJ and the lighting was totally different.

This is how I remember LL and I lived in Denmark Hill.

[vicki08]

i think the cheese block used to be the white swan chinese take-away and i worked in the magdala and it had more than three customers it was packed there used to be 12 bar staff also the uplands was a really busy pub and there was never on a sunday steak house and above it was cool for cats late night drinking place its where the meditterean restaurant is was there not a car front where mrs robinsons is and next to that a newsagents

[Otta]

Iceland used to be Bejams if I remember rightly.

Before 7/11 opened, it was a little Tesco. (now Budgens)

The old Woolwich was a Co-Op, and there was a co-op off lisense on that strip as well (my dad used to manage it).

[Zebedee Tring]

And before it was Bejams, it was a small Sainsburys freezer store. There were other similar Sainsburys freezer stores e.g. in Streatham, but I think Sainsburys closed them in the late 80s.

[Bic Basher]

minder Wrote:

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> Somerfield was something before that and before

> that and then before that was an 'International'

> as I remember taking my Mum shopping there in the

> 80s in my red Ford Escort!

Gateway.

[Freddy1929]

does anyone remember Woolworths? I think it was were Foxtons is now? or am I dreaming......

[Otta]

My mum has mentioned there was a Woolworths, but not sure where. I'll ask her.

[computedshorty]

Some time in the 1950s to 1960s

I remember the Magdala opposite was the car Show room and shop, and Garage that repaired cars at the back, there was one of those wind the handle Petrol Pumps with a glass top, and if you wanted oil he would pump it out of a 45 gallon drum.

On the other corner was the hardware shop sold Paraffin and pots and pans, I went to Heber School with the son.

A few houses up the hill was an alleyway that led to a couple of houses behind those in Lordship Lane.

There was an Insurance shop next to St Anthony?s Hall nears the Steam Laundry. I used them for years they moved to Streatham then Norbury.

In Pellett Road there was a row of shops the all belonged to one company I think they were Plumbers or Heating a passage under the first one led to the back yard. On the corner of Landcroft and Pellett where there are flats was a house that was Doctor Hunters Surgery, they moved to Lordship Lane just a few houses from Townley Road but It was bombed , so they moved to the corner of Townley Road. Where the zebra crossing is lived the Britain & Colman families, on the corner of Heber road was the Dentist, just behind that in Heber was Colmans the Builders, The works was under the arch of the house to the workshops. On the other side corner of the road lived Lionel Place the Baker, there was a Tin Dance Hall in the rear Garden, next house up Lordship lane was Greenaway & Sons Builders, who I worked for four years, there was then a gap where the houses were bombed, then the Church on Goodrich Corner. Nearly opposite was Milo Road the first part on the left was the Council dust cart depot where a dozen road sweepers kept their carts there was a little Hut there, later it got added to the house next door as part of their garden.

Milo Garage on the left had work shops that did car repairs, as well as letting out lock up garages, they had a Petrol pump with the handle I think it had one of those Glass Shell Tops that lighted up. The owners lived in one of the three houses opposite.

In Lordship Lane up from Goodrich Road were some four story houses facing Milo these had the typical Tilts (Estate Agents )look although the houses were built of yellow Stock Bricks they always used the Red Fletton Brick, you can see they cut through the side of the landing of the first floor to build the most unsightly outside steps going up to the fourth floor, two of my school mates lived up there I can tell you everybody was scarred stiff of using theses in icy weather. Next door lived the Wallace?s, Phillis was my age we used to leave home at the same time for school so walked together. Her brother slightly older than us was due to be called into the Services, but he joined the Air Raid Wardens based in Dulwich Library with my father. There was an enormous amount of shells being fired into the sky at the German Aircraft overhead the shells breaking to steel fragments with the parts of the

destroyed aircraft dropped around us all the time smashing the Roofs of houses. One such large part fell through the roof of his top floor bedroom smashing his head killing and him, my dad the nearest Warden had to deal with it. He did not tell me for days what had happened.

Other families along there were the Smith?s / Hardley?s / Ellerthorp / Rodgers / Longs / Thomas / Tooks / Tonks.

On the corner of Bawdale was the Tyre Shop & Off Licence I think it was called the Victory, at the back was the School of Motoring Wilsons kept their cars there, and the entrance to Places Bake House my mates brother worked there for years named Peter Morgan.

The corner of Whatley road was a second hand car showroom, then a sweet shop, then a gap where some houses had got bombed the houses each side were supported by Flying timber braces to keep them up, a few houses up 197 Lordship Lane was the pets shop in the basement of a house that had cemented the front garden over and displayed rabbits and cats in cages, all bales of hay and straw sawdust, and birds though they were in the room down the steps, if you go by there now the iron railings are still there, They did not get taken in the war because of the pets there.

My mate worked for the Metropolitan Gas Board in Old Kent Road he had to repair a gas leak in the cellar of the Magdala repairing the gas pipe the barman got blown up with the escape of gas. Blew the Flaps up in the front of the pub, where they used to lower the barrels down a ladder with a rope tied onto the Brewers Dray to slowly lower the barrel, I remember that row of shops, the front pavement or rather the frontage was at all levels some parts a steep slope other steps.

[milliemum]

Really interesting to hear how much ED has changed since the 50's and 60's. I only came here in 1993 having been in Camberwell for sme years prior to this and have seen so many changes - some good and some bad - since then.

[Reg Smeeton]

What shop was there before Just Williams took over?

[happydulwich]

I can add a bit more info

DVR (Goose Green Roundabout) (Early 2000's). Was a cash coverters previously, but before that it was The Institute of Engineers

Sugar (Goose Green Roundabout) A video rental shop, privately owned

Just William: It was Osbourne Stewart Estate agents but was originally an Insurance Brokers

East Dulwich Deli: Second hand baby shop owned by Mrs Georgious

43 Lordship Lane Hirst Bakery: Originally Place Bakery, changed to Munchbox

I do remember back in the 80's the site where Bushell's are was a second hand furniture shop. I also remember the greengrocers run by Forder at the bottom of the Lane.

[KidKruger]

The East Dulwich Deli was also (besides being a pram shop) also a rather fine greasy cafe. One half sold prams etc and the other was the cafe and the lady and her fella would dart thru an adjoining door to attend to customers in either of the premises.

[Jah Lush]

Sugar was Dusara's Videos (I still have my membership card) and the greengrocers stood where the Black Cherry is today.

[steveo]

The East Dulwich Deli was also (besides being a pram shop) also a rather fine greasy cafe.

The Savarin!

[Otta]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Sugar was Dusara's Videos (I still have my

> membership card) and the greengrocers stood where

> the Black Cherry is today.

Geoff was a nice fella, and always happy to rent out dodgy pirate vids from under the counter.