Reg Smeeton Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 This thread has been partially updated in March 2021. More updates will be needed. It's a snapshot of how Lordship Lane was 27 years ago, and what has happened since. (There are still several long-standing shops on LL, such as Chener Books, SMBS, Dulwich Tandoori, Bell's Kitchens, Dulwich DIY, AJ Farmer)occasional edits to this as people add details below or correct mistakesKey:Today....[intermediate shops]....1994PUBSBishop........ 'The Foresters Arms' (a sofa and armchair pub)EDT ..... 'The East Dulwich Tavern' (rivalled the Magdala for LL's dodgiest customers - had a pool table)Palmerston was 'The Lord Palmerston' (could get quite rowdy on Friday nights)The Lordship...The Patch (lasted a year?)...The Mag....Magnolia .... The Magdala (in its later days, the late 1990s, it usually had about three customers and was a dingy place)Plough ....The Plough (destination of the Number 12 bus), succumbed to misguided repackaging for a few years as 'Goose and Granite', so it was dropped as the bus destination which is why No.12 now says Dulwich Library.BARSTerroir..Toasted...Green & Blue .... Combined two stores(left side as viewed from the street had been Redgewells, before that Italian restaurant, right side was an empty shop formerly car parts)House of Tippler....Liquorish...Camelot TravelFOODIESFranklins farm shop.....the Tyre shopThe Cheese Block .... was probably already the Cheese blockNext Door (fish restaurant)...Burro e Salvia....Speedo Pizza?WINEOddbins...Nicolas....Earlier incarnation of Le Chandelier [or was it Melbourne Antiques?], sold antiquesBottle Cave...Boss Man.... UnwinsCave Bruno....Old Villa furnishing....Junction Emporium (old fireplaces)...???BUTCHERS/BAKERS/FISH/VEG/DELITruly Scrumptious...Hirst....Place BakeriesBoulangerie Jade...Luca's ....Finger Lick'n ChickenWilliam Rose ....Bespoke Windows....Lingerie shop...Pine furnitureMoxons.... Was this the seoncd Place Bakeries? There were two of them in the lower strip of LL Franklins Farm Shop....Tyre shop until around 2005??Mons....Mrs Robinson clothes boutique....Jerk Rock...something elseArapina (No.52)...Pop up shop...Threshers...Victoria WineESTATE AGENTSPortico...(Raymond) Bushells???....Daisylets...Target Arms (Antique military/firearms shop)Haart ....Wates 2nd branch?...Woolwich Building Soc?/Employment CentreKinleigh (KFH)....???...Co-op?Foxtons ... DSS buildingAcorn (+ Property In)... ?Ludlow Thompson ... ???Pedder....previously called Wates....Wilson Rogers estate agents (Wates moved from the space that is now the extended section of Dulwich Carpets)Co-op Funeral CareHindwood Hunter Payne....White Dent Estate AgentsTruepenny's...Your Move....Ladbrokes???...Jacksons...Halifax...??CAFES/RESTAURANTSSpinach...Le Chandelier (cafe)..Le Chandelier (antiques)... Melbourne Antiques?Kartulie(Georgian food)...Tart...Le Chardon .... Thistells restaurantSignoria...Boulangerie/Sandwichs...Mon Petit Chou .... Binester Toys? No.52 Cheese toasties...Sylvester...The French House...Boho??...Tivoli Amusement ArcadeFranco Manca...The Draft House...Black Cherry .... Smith's Greengrocer...[Currently Empty]...Saucy...Curry CabinYamaMomo...Adventure Bar/cafe...Inside 72....Cheltenham & GloucesterOddono's....Sally's FloristMeat Liqueur...The Sea Cow....Gente's MenswearGBK .... Westons....Spaghetti WesternFranklins .... SE22 bar?Maria's Tortilla...Swadesh...Coriander...short-lived Tapas restaurant...???Firezza Pizza...Cafe Noodle ... Free Range, got a good Time Out review and then became a greasy spoonCaffe Nero .... Edwardes Electrical suppliersOlivelli...Mediterranean Restaurant (Koz??)...Dos Amigos....Cafe El Passo (sic)Memsaab...Veer Zara...Pistachio Club....another Indian - Last Days of Raj (or something else earlier)Dulwich Cafe...StarburgerRajah Rowing Team....Bombay Bicycle...Curry in a hurryItalian deli by library...Electrics shop (maybe wasn't called Plough electrics in those days)500 Pizza...Empty...Jaflong....Tulip Cafe???...Platform 1...Sorsi & Morsi...(SMBS Indian restaurant)....Chopsticks, was something else beforeDulwich Picturehouse (Cafe)....St Thomas More Hall (community; line-dancing classes etc)Tandoori Nights....unchanged (but closed for a long time after fire 2019)Dulwich Tandoori...unchanged[No.42 empty]...As Nature Intended...Surma Curry HouseKanella (cafe)....Pop up shop...Soup Dragon - ?OPTICIANSWoodfall....Tanna's PharmacyPaine & Hunter...unchanged?CLOTHESWhite Stuff ... Walsh GlazingJojo Maman Bebe ....Maudsley CMHT Shelter Boutique...Sugar (Goose Green Roundabout) A video rental shop, privately owned....Western Capital?Iris Fashion...Question Air...Give and Take...Ralon stationers (with the infamous Indian owner)Sweaty Betty....half of East Dulwich Deli...The second hand pram shopReally Maria...the other half of East Dulwich Deli...see above.GIFTS, NICK-NACKS ETC.Marys Living & Giving...Moos....Mobile phone shop Mrs Robinson .... was it still the second hand car place?Empty [No.7 LL]...Green Cuisine ... Sandwich shop run by that friendly Chinese guy Celestial .... Jewellers [Celestial was previously in Blackwater Road]Rouiller White ... Guys'N'Dolls Beauty salonKaravan .... had possibly just opened in 1994Oliver Bonas....part of Walsh GlazingLilas jewellery...Callow Locksmiths (rent rise forced them to Melbourne Grove)...Granada TV shopFOOD/SUPERMARKETSMarks & Spencer....Iceland...Sainsbury Freezer CentreCo-op....Somerfield....GatewayPayless Food & Wine....Organic Village....[Greek? delicatessen]As Nature Intended...Surma Curry...unchangedPHARMACY/CHEMISTSuperdrug...Empty...Londis...Budgens....7-ElevenSogim Pharmacy....Lush Designs...Kodak shop...Callow Locksmith??Loyds North CrossVale Pharmacy...Care ChemistEmpty [115 LL].....Sogim pharmacy....Co-op pharmacyOTHERAesthetics by Lauren Turner...Property In...Hey Diddle Diddle toys and clothes shopLittle Mynx...Bonnies flowersMrs Feelgoods...The Beauty Place..??Bet Fred....Ludlow Thompson (previous location)...???Lordship Flooring...Dulwich CarpetsDulwich Barbers...[Photographer]....[Nurse agency] ....in 1994 it was an empty newsagentPorters...Dulwich Village Residential...Was a cash converters previously, but before that it was The Institute of EngineersSt Christophers Hospice store...Filmnight...Apollo video rental .... A bed store, went with the bedding shopBloomers...Pink Frog design....Dry CleanersSolicitor? next to them....TV Repair shopESPH (physio gym)....a catering company making sandwichesADZ Dental Care...newsagentVape shop...Nina Christie...Callow Locks???Headnizm...Piers Hairdressers?????....Paulo's HairdressersVillage Way hairdressers....unchanged since 94Jazz's Barbers .... Fashion & Leisure (sports shop)Mr Simms sweet shop...Jolie a Pied ....Sound & Vision, and before that Darrah Arts?...was this also Haart at some point???Bet Fred.... ?sports and trainers shop (name was 'Fashion and Leisure' or something equally bland)Just William....Osborne Stewart, estate who were involved in an infamous episode on the EDF...before them were?PearSpring (house plants) [closed in 2020 then re-opened] - refurbishment of the dress shop Marie Claire(?) that had been closed for decades.Vet...HSBC...Midland Bank Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Brillian Reg - I have only been here 9 years but I'm impressed with your summary. Franklins was already here when I arrived, can't imagine it not being part of LL. Pool table in the EDT - could that make a comeback - the Gowlett pool table is fab. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Feedlebra Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Dulwich Tandoori - Dulwich Tandoori. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuLu Too Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The Adventure Bar was a Cheltenham & Gloucester Building Society in 1994.Green & Blue was a cafe called Redgewells - can't remember if that was as far back as 1994 though.Bossman was Unwins.Can't remember if Acorn or Soupdragon was an Undertakers - but one of them was.Was The Chandelier - The Junction emporium then? Franklins used to be The SE22 bar - but not sure if it was that in 1994?Pistachio was called "Days of the Raj".JoJo Maman Bebe was a Southwark Libraries book depository that became an NHS/Social Services office.GBK was Spaghetti Western.Budgens was 7/11.And the HiFi store has been there forever. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Fantastic - I can't believe how little of these I could remember (until reminded). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Smeeton Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Thanks Lulu, I've made some corrections based on your comments. Melbourne Antiques and Junction Emporium were close to each other, don't remember which was where. What was Moxons in its previous life, lots of people should remember that but I can't. Which was the mirror shop? I thought that was on a corner. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuLu Too Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I think the mirror shop "on a corner" was part of Walshes glaziers - where both White Stuff/Oliver Bonas are. I remember buying a mirror from there!Maybe Moxons was The Junction Emporium? Or Sally's Flowers?Maman JoJo Bebe (or whatever it's called) was never a library - it was a book depository. It became a S.Services building in mid 1990's. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andystar Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 i used to go to the SE22 bar all the time with my bro... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyr Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Binester toys was not as far up as Ludlow Thompsons. I thought is was nearer if not where Mon Petit Chou isThe gentlemans clothes shop was down between the bakery (Place/Hirst) and the Black Cherry. there was also anith chinese restaurant there called China China (they did a fantastic Yu Hong Beef)although that may have been a little later. The chiken shop is there now - the gents clothes shop was there or next door Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Cheeseblock was thereCurry Cabin was still Curry CabinI don't think SE22 Bar was thereOn Northcross, Blue Mountain was open, Thai Corner Cafe opened that summer? Or was it '95 and Graces opened aroundish then...basically that year was the 'cusp' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 My desk is from the Junction Emporium. The chap who ran it (who specialised in glass) has a restoration business now. It was taken over by Erica and then became The Chandelier. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Seema Thai was there but lay out different, old school without the extension but just Thai people Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonM Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 "Free Range" was next door (I think) to where Franklins is - it later became the Noodle place. It was a bit classier han a greasy spoon, especially in its early days, but the standard soon dropped pretty alarmingly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwich Born And Bred Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The video shop ( near to Dulwich Cafe etc) was the bedding shop, I remember because my mum used to pop down there and pay off for a bed! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nicolas was an antique shop at some point - same owners as Melbourne Antiques, and Moos used to be an T-Mobile shop at some point (but not sure if it was in 1994). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfightersforever Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Can't remember the name but Property in Dulwich was a children's toyshop/clothes/equipment run by a lovely woman who arranged midwife drop ins etc (before yummy mummies invented.) Anyone know what happened to the lovely owner of Free Range? Heard she won the lottery so hope that's true! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-241975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Memories. I think it was SE22 bar in those days. God, I'd have just gotten my GCSE results, and went out for dinner on Lordship Lane to celebrate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Long ago, Franklins used to be a chemicals business. There were vats of bubbling acids in the back yard. The owner was a bit of a ladies man and had built a private club in the basement with a little dance floor and a bar where he 'entertained'. I visited once with my girlfriend but the bar only served scotch and things became very hazy very quickly so we scarpered.He closed that business and turned the shop into a greasy called Get Stuffed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Days Of The Raj/Pistaccio Club was Bells Fish & Chip shop or was that before 94? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew123 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 ..and East Dulwich Police station used to be an M&S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 It's not in the Lounge yet Matthew Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Smeeton Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 On topic please chaps. Don't let this factual thread degenerate, lots of good local history coming out here.Jah - Bells Fish & Chips must have been before 94 as I have no recollection of it. Were they related to Bells kitchens? Holman the electrician was somewhere in the Moxons vicinity. His brother had a model railway shop for a while, which used to advertise in the pine shop (now William Rose) but operated from one of the units in Blackwater Road. That was still going in the mid 1990s. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 There was a video shop down near the roundabout called Dumas or something. Nice bloke called Geoff, used to have all the pirate videos under the counter. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAP Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The travel agents was called Camelot Travel and i think is where GBK is today... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 There was a tv rental place on the corner of the parade where Farmers is if memory serves. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7720-lordship-lane-1994/#findComment-242245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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