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red devil Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > I go out to the pub in the evening to see other

> > people not to be seen... and not to look

> important

>

> What about when you're performing your card tricks

> in public? Hardly the shrinking violet then Foxy.



No.. I'm NOT a shrinking violet.. I've been described as a 'Social Butterfly'.

Not everyone likes magic tricks but people frequently ask if I have any tricks to show them..

I've been on stage and used to be a dancer.. I enjoy the 'Limelight' but I think that goes for most people.



>

>

> > I'm cooking everyday. Making breakfast, Lunch,

> > Evening meals.

> > So I go out to eat in the evening for a treat

> and

> > a break from cooking.

> > And although I might check my e-mail on my ipod

> I

> > don't sit in the restaurant / pub Posing with

> my

> > Laptop.

> > Taking up space for hours on end.

>

> Most people doing this are self-employed, work

> from home, and just like you are bored being at

> home all the time and want to 'be' with people.

> It's annoying when you get some loud mouth

> conducting a business call, but you get that

> anywhere these days. Just politely tell them to

> shut the fook up :)...


I'm certainly not a loudmouth..


Foxy..

A variation on kissing an elephant on the nose perchance?



Dopamine1979 Wrote:

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> Just for the love of God don't do the white eared

> elephant trick

>

> East Dulwich ain't ready to see the Fox's tail.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Louisa Wrote:

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> > Foxy I don't get why people would want to spend

> > the best part of a tenner on a coffee and

> > croissant just to obtain free wi-fi. Am I

> missing

> > something here?

> >

> > Louisa.

>

> Because they have too much money and time on

> their hands..

> They want to be seen... and look important.

> Otherwise they would have a coffee and croissant

> at home..

>

> Like the old days before mobile phones and

> laptops when these people would of carried a

> Filo-fax with them

> where ever they went.

>

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> d9GcSNOjWkMjHJV4xJ3q1ruYGkJ7OH9ta7eMiz4FcaQJTaYK1e

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> Foxy


Louisa, you are blatantly yanking someone's chain and they are falling for it every time. Hook, line and sinker. Well played.


Of course, people don't just want to spend a tenner on a coffee/croissant because they have too much time and money on their hands or want to 'be seen'. There are many reasons why getting out of the house is beneficial to someone and for some it can be a nice way of treating themselves or simply connecting with society around them. It is so unfeeling to assume people are doing it for other reasons and says a lot more about you than it does about them.


We might as well tar all people who go out to the pub AND out for a curry as tossers then eh?

> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > They want to be seen... and look important.



Do they tell people they are a 'social butterfly'(??) and parade from coffeeshop to coffeeshop 'meeting their public'(??) whilst occasionally performing magic tricks?

*Bob* Wrote:

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> > DulwichFox Wrote:

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>

> > > They want to be seen... and look important.

>

>

> Do they tell people they are a 'social

> butterfly'(??) and parade from coffeeshop to

> coffeeshop 'meeting their public'(??) whilst

> occasionally performing magic tricks?


I was called a Social Butterfly... I do not fleet from coffee shop to coffee shop. and only perform magic

to order and in fact seldom carry any cards / tricks with me..


Doubt you have ever seen me despite being out and about most days and out in the bars and restaurants EVERY night.

for the last 40 years..


More like an 'Elusive Butterfly'


DulwichFox

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> I was called a Social Butterfly...


Someone called you a social butterfly - but you have been good enough to pass this description on to us (your public, I assume?) - about fifty times.



Anyway - back those guys ostentatiously drinking coffee and bigging themselves up with pastries ..

Enjoying a coffee and/or croissant isn't a problem. I frequent the Dulwich Cafe on a regular basis and have a bite to eat and/or drink, so that's not a problem. What seems daft is specifically choosing menu items to annoy/patronise other members of the community based on price/pretentiousness and/or other dubious factors. I don't chow down on a bacon butty and mug of tea to 'be seen' I do it because I'm hungry. People who opt for patronising venues and/or menu items (more specifically) appear to be the type of people who want other to see them as being a grade above everyone else. I know that may be hurtful to some of you, and perhaps it's done with a sub-conscious mind, but that's how it comes across.


Louisa.

"I know that may be hurtful to some of you...."


Not so much "hurtful"


More "the deluded rantings of a fool"


If you could provide a list of foodstuffs and venues that annoy and or patronise you I will be sure to let you know every time I partake, so you can keep stoking the anger that burns within. Just to get you started, I'm planning to have sushi for lunch. From a conveyor belt.

Louisa Wrote:

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I frequent the Dulwich Cafe on a regular

> basis


Ah, the patronising venue of choice for the inverted snob, deliberately 'sitting' there with your patronising 'look at me - nowt posh about me yer bastards' air.



> What seems daft is

> specifically choosing menu items to

> annoy/patronise other members of the community

> based on price/pretentiousness and/or other

> dubious factors.



Like choosing a 'bacon butty'* in some pretentious 'look-at-me-I'm-one-of-the-proletariat' gesture, deliberately showing the flaccid undercooked fat smothered in vinegary ketchup and sneering 'I'm fooking real, me'.


*These types will invariably call a sandwich a 'butty' and talk of tea in 'mugs' in an attempt to boost their ostentatiously 'ordinary' credentials.



>I don't chow down on a bacon

> butty and mug of tea -


(told you)


>- to 'be seen' I do it because

> I'm hungry.


Yeah, right.


>People who opt for patronising venues

> and/or menu items (more specifically) appear to be

> the type of people who want other to see them as

> being a grade above everyone else.



(see all the above)


>perhaps it's done

> with a sub-conscious mind,


or none at all

My 20-month-old loves croissants. In fact when there is one in sight, she will point at it, shout, and refuse to eat anything else until we've allowed her to stuff it all into her face.


Is this a) because croissants taste really good or b) because she's specifically choosing to annoy/patronise the working class?


I'd like to think it was b), but sadly she's not quite that advanced.


Not got her started on coffee yet, but it's probably only a few weeks away.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > I was called a Social Butterfly...

>

> Someone called you a social butterfly - but you

> have been good enough to pass this description on

> to us (your public, I assume?) - about fifty

> times.

>

>

> Anyway - back those guys ostentatiously drinking

> coffee and bigging themselves up with pastries ..


Maybe twice in defence / reply to abuse from people like yourself...


Now why don't you go away and boil your head.


DF

More patronising comparisons trying to dilute my argument. Lots of if this and but that rubbish, looking for a way to compare one type of 'snobbery' with another. The fact remains, some of us from whatever social class, take it upon ourselves to actively engage in 'look at me' food/drink snobbery. A trawl of Facebook/Twitter and other forms of social media prove my point. It seems that certain people are more guilty of this than others (the facts speak for themselves). They tend to be younger, upwardly mobile, usually originating from a wealthy/none-London background (often hipsters or Clapham types) who go into bizarrely named new restaurants and pop-up's so they can let the world know they're eating some fancy named food type that is somehow unique and no one else has ever tried before (usually served on an old wooden chopping board). It's then, we get to the FOOD itself. Usually, some sort of patronising delicacy, such as a croissant (great example), in a venue offering free internet access and charging a fortune for a coffee (or some fancy named tea no one else drinks apart from people like this).


Patronising food was not easily accessible when I was younger, and it would often be seen as a treat. Nowadays, food snobbery has reached a peak because of higher disposable incomes and access to expensive food to a wider market. The opportunity to be a food snob is tremendous, and certain people just can't help themselves, let's face it.


Louisa.

Someone's still hogging the Circle (of Perpetual Nonsense) Stage I see...must be a record for encores.


http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,1477950,page=1


When did you start using Facebook again Lou?

You see, if you're going to be a successful troll, you must remember what you've written in the past, otherwise you just look really, really, really, stoopid...

Oh dear RD, you've made yourself look a little silly there haven't you? Where, oh where, have I contradicted myself? I have indeed used social media in the past, and to some degree continue to do so, but I DO NOT use the check-in snap happy photo options to prove how expensive/pretentious the food I'm eating is. So it seems, not only have you missed the point, but you've actively sought a way to prove my stupidity and then made yourself look even more ridiculous in the process. Well done!


Louisa.

There must - somewhere - be a self-help group for those who have been patronised by a pastry, humiliated by an hors-d'?uvre, dealt with disdainfully by a duck a l'orange,or merely brutalised by a snarky cr?me br?l?e?


For me it's iced buns. The little bastards make me seethe.

I think Foxy and Louisa are sugesting an eating out 'Burka' of sorts


It's a pie and mash mentality. There is only pies, hence nobody is 'one upmanshiped'


Modest eating by the most immodest of posters


Ha....jokes!


Ps. What a fekkin tedious and microagressive position to default to

Well I've had a lovely evening. I went to the Harvester in Petts Wood with friends and I made merry on a few bottles of Malbec. I wasn't remotely patronised by the free salad bar, the steak and chips for main, nor the chocolate brownie sundae for dessert. Not a croissant in sight, and I'm now sat here smiling at the bizarre comments above. You people really do need to get out more, rather than waiting on poking my fire every single time I express a honest held straight talking opinion.


Louisa.

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