Eileen Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The local community is tackling Peckham town centre waste problems and how to utilise recycling opportunities. This is a joint initiative by Copeland Park http://copelandpark.com, Peckham Vision http://www.peckhamvision.org and the Rye Lane Traders? Association (RLTA) http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/RLTA, supported by a small grant from the Council?s High Street Challenge scheme. We are looking for a social researcher to work with us on the project: more info here: https://www.facebook.com/PeckhamVision/posts/1000823223273874 Further information and the detailed project brief are available from [email protected]. The deadline for proposals is 16th October. Please pass this information on to others who may be interested. If you have suggestions about improvements in waste management and recycling in the town centre you can email [email protected] and / or post comments here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Eileen, I really don't think it needs a committee! Just fine folk who drop litter and tell the owners/workers of shops that litter and fly tip to stop and fine them if they don't. Tell them about the facilities that exist already and then do it a few times again so that the penny drops. Leave literature for the owner and make sure that s/he understands why it's important and what penalties there are for non-compliance. Get the local newspapers to report on it and make a point of thanking those that play by the rules. If you want to get to work immediately, get down to Choumert Road and hang around for about fifteen minutes and you'll see up-close SE15 littering/tipping at its most blatant. (I did my little bit a couple of hours ago by collecting a few cans and putting them in one of the all-too-lacking litter bins nearby.) It really is not difficult and should not require yet another layer of bureaucracy, let alone another post - paid or otherwise. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I agree with Nigello. Littering is an individual's choice and the rest of us should not have to put up with or subsidise bad manners. There is someone who fairly regularly dumps stuff on the bin outside the newsagents on Crystal Palace Road at night...invariably foxes or cats rip the bags open and the rubbish is strewn all over the pavement and road. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 What is it these days with committees for everything? Just dispose of your waste in the normal manner, end of. All this nanny state nonsense does my head in. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 agree...the we'll form a committee tends to lead to inaction (see also start/launch an enquiry) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I don't think anyone denies that a cleaner, greener Peckham is a good idea but I do think that most right-minded people are sceptical of "community committees" rather than the use of already established laws, social norms and council wherewithal to get the job done. My Pooterish litter-picking won't solve the problem but it does demonstrate that immediate action can have an immediate effect, even if it is limited in scope and scale. If only one in ten of us reported grot spots, asked shop owners to dispose of rubbish along established guidelines and keep our own immediate environments clean - imagine the effect. This does not negate the need for, nor detract from the good work of, the authorities, which should be contacted when there is a problem with litter, fly tipping or the local environment. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArtfulDogger Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Come on Eileen you know what they mean..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerchris Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I don't really understand how you can think this is not necessary. Rye Lane is disgusting due to the fly tipping and business waste that lines the pavements. It makes sense to me that someone should be appointed to take charge of stopping it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanW Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I think everyone agrees with that.But maybe the budget could be spent on facilities and enforcement. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider69 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 gingerchris Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I don't really understand how you can think this> is not necessary. Rye Lane is disgusting due to> the fly tipping and business waste that lines the> pavements. It makes sense to me that someone> should be appointed to take charge of stopping it.don't we pay Council Tax to the Council to enforce this?Perhaps the rubbish adds to Peckhams trendy charmsWhere are the Council Officers? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 It is not necessary at all. The rules are in place, the authority exists - all it takes is the continued and steady application of the current powers. It's this kind of committeeisation that makes my heart sink and puts me off any kind of organised "community" involvement. It oozes treacle-speed progress and a love of process over action. Just ask yourself, "what would your mother have done?" - where "mother" represents any common sensical person who doesn't suffer from any form of cultural/social cringe - and you may well find that she would have either had a word herself and/or contacted the council over transgressors. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-904462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpsaucey Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 TheArtfulDogger Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Come on Eileen you know what they mean.....Lol v good - made my day! Everyone is just gonna 'walk on by' and ignore it??? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/75819-community-initiative-for-a-cleaner-peckham-town-centre/#findComment-905137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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