Panorama - Oldhams Yorkshire Street

[Judy2]

Just watched Panaorama - seems Yorkshire Street in Oldham is fight night every night - These inner cities stories make me feel glad I live in East Dulwich or more generally London. I have been in London for 20 years this year and have been fortunate enough not to have witnessed more than a couple of minor scuffles in that time.

Is London the safest city in England for drinking? (oh and I'm not counting Croydon as London). I have tended to socialise in better areas of London, Islington, Clapham and Dulwich but have been to many other parts of London too and never much trouble.

Having said that I have been out in ED recently and a number of young people arrive in cabs, presumably from other areas, to sample ED's vibe - hope this does not result in ED becoming more troublesome.

[bigbadwolf]

[Mick Mac]

Nice poem BBW - is your message that things used to be much worse?

[woofmarkthedog]

Judy2 Wrote:

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> Having said that I have been out in ED recently

> and a number of young people arrive in cabs,

> presumably from other areas, to sample ED's vibe -

> hope this does not result in ED becoming more

> troublesome.

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No, they know the middle class charlie dealers sell better gear in E. Dulwich than say Croydon.

[bigbadwolf]

I was taking the piss Mick Mac. I've no idea how bad it is or isn't in the particular Manchester suburban street Judy has alerted us to. My aunt went to uni in Manchester in the early 80's, that's how I know about the poem. I'm not a fan of Cooper-Clarke or anything like that.

Good question though.

I don't think my answer would count for much amongst all you lot due to my age and/or lack of life experience but I will say one thing.

Much less violent crime and a lot less toleration of it as well when it did occur.

[Mick Mac]

It was a good poem though - listended to the whole 6 mins! Might listen to a bit more of him - think I might have seen him once in the 1990s tho.

[bigbadwolf]

Well at the end of the day I'm glad you liked it Mick but to me it just seemed like a moan about how shit the street he lived on was.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Been 4 rapes in Yorkshire Street alone.

Binge drinking a major factor.

[HonaloochieB]

Any thread which has JCC is fine with me.

But given the subject matter wouldn't this be more apt.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

I'm a slow reader. Taking me a while to get thru' it bbw.

Great poem...

[????]

Although there's other risks associated with inner London the suburban ring and places like Croydon/Sutton/Dagenham/Romford have alyways been worse for random drunken violence and the 'you're not from round here' type shite

[Brendan]

I definitely feel safer drinking in London, even in ?dodgy? areas like Brixton and Peckham than I do in places like Croydon or Watford or any of the provincial high streets that end up awash with aggressive idiots who can?t handle their booze every Friday night.

Not so sure about Forest Hill though.

Oh and I got lost in Harlesden in the wee hours of Sunday morning which was er? educational.

[bigbadwolf]

"Not so sure about Forest Hill though."

Brendan, we've been through this before. Even though you've grown up in a country/colony where girl guides wear stab vests, you're still not 'savvy' enough to be supping ale in Fozzy Hill. If anything the altitude will play havoc with your balance if the shandy doesn't get to you first.

[Brendan]

I fear you are correct there. My lesson was perhaps learnt best when at an esteemed Forest Hill establishment I requested a wine list and was presented with a piece of card which simply said, ?Both Flavors?

[????]

I'm not worried about getting a shoeing in Forest Hill...just a skin disease or something unpleasant like thet

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Brendan Wrote:

Oh and I got lost in Harlesden in the wee hours of Sunday morning which was er? educational.

Share please Brendan.

I'm genuinely interested.

[bigbadwolf]

Brendan I can only apologise for the slipshod and slovenly service you recieved in the Capi....er, se23 Ale house but if you point me in the direction of the offending Inn me and the peasants shall see to it's immediate torching. Both flavors indeed!

Quids. I hope you catch Leprosy.

[HonaloochieB]

Brendan Wrote:

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> I fear you are correct there. My lesson was

> perhaps learnt best when at an esteemed Forest

> Hill establishment I requested a wine list and was

> presented with a piece of card which simply said,

> ?Both Flavors?

They'd obviously upped their game from when I was in there, my card said 'yellowy-green' and 'oxblood'.

[bigbadwolf]

"They'd obviously upped their game from when I was in there, my card said 'yellowy-green' and 'oxblood'."

Pack it in Hooch. You wouldn't know the wine list if it swayed across your path and threw up all over you. I remember the last time you were in the Capitol. You stomped up to the bar and banged your hammy fist on the deck demmanding a "Pint o' Diesel darlin, an a packet of 'oolaroops".

[Brendan]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> They'd obviously upped their game from when I was

> in there, my card said 'yellowy-green' and

> 'oxblood'.

I think those were the terms used on the chalk board to describe the chef?s specials.

[bigbadwolf]

Really Brendan?

Last time I was in there 'yellowy-green' and 'oxblood' were the signs that distinguished which gender should use which toilet.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Brendan you are an xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Brendan]

One word, thirteen letters, begins with a vowel.

Abolitionists?

Intermediator?

Ornithotomist?

Isodimorphous?

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Brendan Wrote:

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> One word, thirteen letters, begins with a vowel. >

> Abolitionists?>

> Intermediator? >

> Ornithotomist? >

> Isodimorphous?

Now it can't be the first one Bren me old mucker...

[Brendan]

I have always fancied a bit of ornithology me.