Herne Tavern... don't take your kids

[binkylilyput]

Aha, so regulars who like the same seat at the bar are actually cronies? I guess we have been mistaken, I kind of thought that was kind of what a pub is for, adults sitting and drinking.......although I can see why being sat at the bar, particularly if they like the same seat would be very offensive and would almost certainly hinder the enjoyment of other punters. Maybe that's where the children wanted to sit?!

As I said, the manager may have been rude and that isn't good.

The OP put the solution in the title

[anoTher]

> Just because something used to be something it

> does not mean that you still treat it like one

> when it is no longer. The Bishop used to have pool

> tables when it was the Foresters. It does not mean

> that i rock up with my pool cues and start firing

> balls into people!!

The Foresters became the Bishop about 10 years ago...

[JimH]

anoTher Wrote:

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> The Foresters became the Bishop about 10 years

> ago...

Agree

[ydrmdy]

No wonder your kids behave the way they do. You stood there smiling and watching them wreck the place. Did you really not notice that there was no longer a playground. And by the way you very rude person, you may class me a cronie propping up the bar but I wasn't asked to leave, you and your sprogs WERE! ( Back of the net!)

[anoTher]

Own goal - we left of our own accord!

[Azira]

I was correcting your assertion that all other witnesses supported your contention. And heh@ you accusing the pub owners of over-reacting after the below response.

anoTher Wrote:

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> Azira Wrote:

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> -----

> > That's not quite true - someone else has

> suggested

> > your progeny was damaging the garden.

>

> Forgive us for taking our kids to a pub which up

> until very recently had a playground, a kids menu

> and separate gated section for kids, to give them

> their tea.

>

> And if they're that precious about their new

> garden then why weren't we warned at the bar the

> playground wasn't there anymore so we then

> wouldn't have wasted our money.

>

> But most importantly the aggresive verbal assault,

> which fortunately was witnessed and has been

> confirmed by a couple of people on this thread has

> no place in a pub at (4.30pm) which on it's very

> own website says "Children are welcome in the

> garden and dining area until 8pm."

>

> Seriously if they over-react that much to 3 five

> year olds, I dread to think what they would they

> do with a group of drunk adults making too much

> noise!

[edcam]

So let's get this straight - there isn't a playground any more but you thought it was ok for your kids to wreck the bushes because "you should have been warned" on your way in that it wasn't a playground any more?

Your case isn't growing any stronger.

[Azira]

Indeed. I wonder how the manager would feel about her public allegation he committed a crime (i.e. "the aggresive verbal assault,")? That's a fairly serious step up from someone just being "rude".

[ydrmdy]

Still diverting away from the truth. You still can't say "yes they did atack the bushes".Just want to still have a go at the ones who did nothing wrong. Typical.

[Mr Mann]

ydrmdy - if youve got rid of all the kids at the Herne, how come it still stinks of piss?..

[anoTher]

Ok, my final post on this as I'm sure everyone including me has had enough.

Over the last few days I've had my parenthood called in to question, been insulted and criticised many times by people who don't know me and weren't there. I will defend my family until the day I die against such criticism.

For the record the children were playing hide and seek in a bush when the manager came out and told them off, and a small branch came off that bush which he then carried back in to the pub presumably as proof of misbehaviour. We were not ignoring them at any time and were telling them to come out of the bush. They then started playing in another empty part of the beer garden when again the manager came out and started shouting at them for making too much noise - we were in the pub for no more than 10 minutes total - hardly a sustained onslaught. And at no point were we asked to leave. Had the behaviour been, as has been insinuated so terrible then surely we would have been asked to leave immediately - the fact is it wasn't and we weren't.

I note from the main protagonists on this thread that some of you repeatedly post on various threads about children and buggies in pubs - well please do carry on on this and any other threads, I shan't be joining you though. You've bored me senseless with your one sided views - even in the face of 2 people who actually saw what happened posting on here that the Herne handled it badly. (The third can be discounted as they are one of their mates.)

The Herne no doubt will gain some customers from this thread and also lose some, they have been exposed for what they are, good luck to them.

To all the other's who have pm'd me in support - Thank you.

(Oh and folks, I'm a man - not a woman as some of you seem to have assumed)

[edhistory]

Now you've made you target views and won your ?50 bet you might light to push a fiver this way:

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/donate.php

[stevie23b]

Mr Mann Wrote:

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> ydrmdy - if youve got rid of all the kids at the

> Herne, how come it still stinks of piss?..

They didn't bar the taxi drivers.

[NewWave]

Sorry but a pub garden is a pub garden.

A playground IS a Playground.

The Herne was a pub which had a GARDEN with a child friendly area.

However it has always been a pub garden.

NEVER a playground with pub attatched

[edcam]

Kids damage bush, parents don't stop them, manager not pleased. Kids continue to make noise, parents don't stop them, so manager has to intervene. Parent comes on to a public forum and moan about it. Most people see through it. THE END.

[Rolo Tomasi]

^ sounds about right.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Has that feel. Only took till page 3 of thread for the OP to elaborate a bit more and then says about the whole hide and seek, bush, branch broken etc to come out. It's almost as if he didn't want to get that out upfront.

edcam Wrote:

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> Kids damage bush, parents don't stop them, manager

> not pleased. Kids continue to make noise, parents

> don't stop them, so manager has to intervene.

> Parent comes on to a public forum and moan about

> it. Most people see through it. THE END.

[eflilvpv]

Ignoring the debate about whether children should be in pubs or not, the herne is rubbish and the new management seem to have an even bigger delusion of grandeur than the last lot. I refuse to go in there with or without my children as its over priced, serves mediocre food and the staff (not the younger ones behind the bar) are miserable gits. Last time my partner and I made the bad decision to waste our money in there they served us such rubbish negronis that we walked out and went to the clockhouse.

[Sue]

eflilvpv Wrote:

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they

> served us such rubbish negronis that we walked out

> and went to the clockhouse.

They must have been bad :))

[Jah Lush]

eflilvpv Wrote:

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Last time my partner and I made

> the bad decision to waste our money in there they

> served us such rubbish negronis that we walked out

> and went to the clockhouse.

Ha ha! You poor dear. Is this for real or satire? It's a pub not a fecking cocktail bar.

[numbers]

Jah I thought the same thing!

Also, have things changed that much at the Clockhouse that its now known as the place to go for a good negroni? [crying with laughter]

The Herne sounds great. The last time I was there, quite a few years ago now, it felt precarious getting from the bar to your seat, balancing glasses of drinks whilst (unsupervised) children were running around. Not their fault at all, they were clearly bored/tired.

Back in my day we had to make do with sitting in the car with cans of coke and packets of crisps whilst the adults got trashed ;-)

[eflilvpv]

Hahaha I knew that statement would get jumped on. You're kidding yourself if you think East dulwich is occupied purely by old gits drinking ale and not yuppies who inevitably want a flowery drink like a negroni.

Yes they're a pub but why do they make a big song and dance about the fact that they serve a wide range of cocktails if they can't be arsed to make them properly?

[littlethistle]

Grok Wrote:

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> Well done the Herne. If parents can't and won't

> contol their kiids in public to prevent them

> causing annoyance and nuisance to others then

> someone has to.

My thoughts exactly.

& just because a pub advertises 'family friendly', it doesn't mean noisy kids & screaming babies are welcome.

[hellosailor]

I dread to think how this is going to pan out..

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?25,1577409

[cazzyr]

Just been there for first time in 4 months. At 5:30 on Saturday afternoon the place was a graveyard. We were the only people outside. What a transformation from the bustling family friendly pub it was. I audaciously posted a comment on Twitter of the empty pub with a lamentation that perhaps removing playground was to blame. I got an insulting tirade back from them saying I shouldn't be out so late it was 6:20 on and was barred from their twitter account.

The Twitter response was rude and aggressive. The lack of punters says it all. I agree. Avoid the place.