James Barber Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 My lot have requested the Southwark Overview Scrutiny Committee (OSC) review this decision about charging for bulk waste collections. This has been agree and will take place 17 September. If you have views you'd like the committee to consider about this proposed new charge on residents please email me.Our grounds for requesting this were:- not included in council budget setting in February.- decision didn't cover the likely impacts in messier streets- decision suggested more good would be donated to charity with no evidence for this assertion.- the decision maker failed to make any responses for requests to meet to discuss this decision - so lack of openness.- decision stated meets Medium term Resources strategy but doesn't explain why it meets this - we think per item the proposal is for much higher charges per item than other London boroughs.- no evidence of the likely impact of this decision.- report stated this decision delayed until systems in place- so the decision appears already made.- no explanation on the impact on people with lower incomes or people without cars. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-897653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_pete Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Off topic but for those wanting to visit Southwark's Waste Facility there's an Open Day on 19th September. Part of the Open House weekend.http://www.veolia.co.uk/southwark/WonderDay2015 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-897655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 James, do you know whether the recycling centre would let a cubs group visit? Would have to be during normal cub meeting time (6:30 - 8pm). My son's group would love it (and I'd be interested too). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-897733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 James Barber wrote (inter alia), about 'free collections of bulky items - withdrawal' - decision suggested more good (sic) would be donated to charity with no evidence for this assertion. To add to this - charities will not, generally, accept goods which have material/ stuffing etc. where these are not confirmed as being fire retardant treated. Many older items of furniture either have not been treated, or the labels confirming this are now missing. These are precisely the sorts of items (together with mattresses) which can be dumped to the general detriment of the environment.Where they can be of course, donations to charity are good (or re-use via Freecycle etc.) - but this is often not possible, whatever the wishes of the owners. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-898187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Hi Pickle,I'm sure they'd be delighted. The tour of the reprocessing plant was/is really interesting.Let me know if you need help organising it.My last visit with a scout group was a Friday evening 7-8.30pm. Hi P68,You make a good point and I will ensure the call-in covers this. Thank you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-898536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KestonKid Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Having run out of the Council free bags for food recycling I have been looking in vain to buy small compostable bags to fit a kitchen caddy. Can anyone advise where they are to be found? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_pete Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 KestonKid Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Having run out of the Council free bags for food> recycling I have been looking in vain to buy small> compostable bags to fit a kitchen caddy. Can> anyone advise where they are to be found?Posted above: http://www.caddylinersdirect.co.uk/shop/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPB Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Farmers. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siduhe Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Sainsbury DKH have them, top shelf with the rubbish bags. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flocker spotter Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I am disappointed not to have the free bags any more, but I fully accept why the free scheme ended. It was a simple cost to cut that did not have many ramifications elsewhere. My sister in Bristol never had free bags and always used newspaper in her food recycing bin. With so many free papers around, thiis presents a cost-free alternative. Cady bags are available to buy at loads of supermarkets and we buy them just as we buy liners for our kitchen bin. If you don't expect the council to provide you with a free bag for your kitchen/pedal/swing bin, why expect other bin liners to be gratis? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 flocker spotter Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- If you don't expect the council to provide you with a free bag for your kitchen/pedal/swing bin, why expect other bin liners to be gratis? Because it is Their scheme.. Your internal pedal bin has nothing to do with Southwark Council. The green bags are for food waste and by residents separating their waste we are already saving the council money and preventing all waste having to be sent to land fill. We all pay for these bags through our council tax. Dulwich DIY are now charging ?3.89 for 25 green food bags.. Shops will be taking advantage of this new scheme. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider69 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 As someone has remarked they can cut this scheme out but can still pay ?169.000.00 on staff refreshments for 2014 .Why do we have to pay for their tea and coffees? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybewes Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 spider69 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> As someone has remarked they can cut this scheme> out but can still pay ?169.000.00 on staff> refreshments for 2014 .> > Why do we have to pay for their tea and coffees?Why does any firm pay for tea and coffee? Why does my firm pay for tea and coffee? So I'm happier working and more productive and not nipping down the road to buy coffee wasting time.Why should we pay to heat their buildings - surely they can wear coats? Here is another why. Why the utter contempt for council employees? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider69 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Most companies I have been with have a tea club or a machine you put your own money inwhy is asking why we have to pay ?169.000.00 showing contempt.Heating? Think you have lost the plot Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Don't pay for bags and use newspaper or a clapped out tea-towel or kitchen roll etc. instead. It's not hard and you'll be doing the environment a (very small) favour. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Funny that Southwark Council will no longer foot the bill for green bags when ... .. they have spent Millions of pounds on Green, Blue & Brown bins.. 10's of 1,000s of them... DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfwsoll Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Whatever happened to the British bulldog, Dunkirk spirit? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybewes Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 spider69 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Most companies I have been with have a tea club or> a machine you put your own money in> > why is asking why we have to pay ?169.000.00> showing contempt.> > Heating? Think you have lost the plotI've never worked for a company with a tea club. Even the dockyard managed to supply its workforce with a cup of tea now and again. I work for a city firm now - not known for having any waste at all but realises that providing some basic comfort now and again improves productivity.It's interesting that with all the corruption and nepotism that goes in local government, with all the cuts that have been made from central funds, with all the tax breaks for property developers and special deals for contractors and incompetence at the highest level of management it's the workers' tea and biscuits that you're after. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugglesworth Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 150 caddy bags for ?10.35. About 7p per bag. Yes, I use them and yes, they work fine. If 150 sounds a lot to you, split the order and cost with a neighbour or two.http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HUSEQQO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider69 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Think your last para sums things up.You could send your city bonus to help them out.FOK in city palance Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-903653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrlass22 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Caddy liner direct are rip off price can get bags pound shops,bq homebase,etc much cheaper. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-904122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KestonKid Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Just to say that I found a supply of caddy bags in Farmers - what a great shop it is. Wonderful selection of the most useful things always. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-904211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beulah Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 @KestonKid Where is "Farmers" and how much are they charging per bag?I've been speaking to Southwark recycling and they confirmed that you can't put newspaper in the brown bin. So what are the options for those of us who don't want to pay for bags - is there a cunning cost-saving solution?Over winter putting it straight into the bin may not be that bad but once it gets warmer I'm really not going to want to open the lid.I know some other boroughs still give them away for free - but I assume you have to show some proof of address to get them.Unless anyone knows different. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-915854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Farmers: - http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/directory/1118/56791.php Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-915861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katanita Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Bags are pretty cheap at Farmers, but I've found that even with two bags they aren't surviving and have holes in when I go to put them out, so I end up triple bagging them. Just me? Anyone found better ones? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/71132-green-food-waste-bags-no-longer-free-from-southwark-council/page/4/#findComment-915887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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