Lordship lane shop gossip (lounged)

[SeanMacGabhann]

I wonder how those Italians get by on empty stomachs. Maybe we should send them some Greggs sausage rolls

[macroban]

Back to reality...

Does anyone know the debt that Parkhill is carrying on its balance sheet?

[*Bob*]

I agree on restaurants devoted to serving pizza.. (having a pizza is hardly 'a treat') - but then that's why they'd make a good pub food. Cheap to make, easy to cook from fresh in a few minutes, endless variations and you don't even need a knife and fork to eat it.

God knows I'd rather have that as a quick food fix than some rancid old Lasagne, reheated from frozen, or some crappy microwave pies filled with beak and cock, served-up with cold oven chips.

[Brendan]

I?m not even going to try to delve into how a type of food can be a personal affront to class sensibilities as I?m afraid it will take us on a journey into, at best, the surreal and quite possibly the frighteningly, psychotic and insane.

I will say this though;

Pizza is the perfect drinking food. It should be compulsory by law for all pubs to serve it.

[Louisa]

Sean as I am sure a man of the world such as yourself would know, Italy is quite an international country and Italians dont exclusively eat pizza as a fix for when they are hungry, in fact I saw McDonalds in Rome than any other take out, oops I better not p*ss the anti-capitalists off! Pizza has never been eaten as a soul meal time dish and certainly not as a main dish, and it is very regional anyhow, i'm sure most Italians would think we were all crazy eating this high carbohydrate diet of bread and various toppings as a main meal.

Horsebox I was attending a work related dinner at Luigis in Crystal Palace a few years ago and the pizza was tried just to see if it would fill me up, I went home hungry. If I remember rightly some weirdo chef put spinach on it too :-S

Louisa

[Brendan]

*taps Louisa on the shoulder*

The style of pizza that is eaten all over the world these days was actually invented by the Italian population in America. But it does generally fall into what people recognise as ?Italian? food.

I don?t think anyone assumes that it is some kind of 100% authentic and exclusive Italian food though, exotic and expensive in the lands off the boot, but eaten for breakfast lunch and dinner by the Italians.

But you know, do share your insights, they?re fascinating.

[paulino]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Horsebox I was attending a work related dinner at

> Luigis in Crystal Palace a few years ago and the

> pizza was tried just to see if it would fill me

> up, I went home hungry. If I remember rightly some

> weirdo chef put spinach on it too :-S

>

> Louisa

I would've thought that a generous topping of bitter, twisted, leaves would've been right up your street.

[Administrator]

The topic is: "Lordship lane shop gossip" and not "Louisa, pizzas and the class system".

Please stay on topic.

[Keef]

OK maybe class and pizza is a step too far, but I think that if your going to a pub you should go there for a drink and not to sit down eating a bloody hot pizza, otherwise why dont we just rename the pub Pizza Hut or Pizza Express or however many other stupid and pointless take out and restaurants aimed at this annoying and pointless snack food.

Can we not all just accept that Louisa doesn't much like pizza?

I'm kind of with you Louisa, in that i don't think a pub is really a place for sitting down for a full on meal, places like Franklins & Palmerston are not pubs anymore IMO, and that is not having a go at them, but they are something different.

However, I think pizzas are a good food to have in the pub. You can share it with a mate, and it soaks up the boze. Sorted.

[Keef]

Sorry admin, hadn't seen your post when I started typing that.

[Louisa]

Brendan I've been to Italy many times and I have not once seen people walking the streets with a pizza. In fact the only pizza place i've seen out there is Pizza Hut (Rome I think). The heavy thick dough base that Italian Americans invented looks stodgy and stuffing to me, and the things they put on top of the damn bit of flat bread grrr dont get me started.

I just dont see the point in pizza personally, maybe if your going to make it at home fair enough or if you really feel like wasting 2 or 3 quid on a frozen one but otherwise, why? I dont see any restaurants dedicated to Welsh Rarebit and it would be the same again, fine to make at home but otherwise why wopuld anyone spend more than a fiver on one? Must be mad!

And.... Paulino... meow... you really have shaken me to the core! ;-)

Louisa.

[Cassius]

Sorry admin but just have to say that every town I've been to in Italy (with the possible exception of Venice) have pizzerias.

You don't see Italians walking around the streets with a slice of pizza because most continentals take their food seriously (and that includes pizza). Incidentally one of the best pizzas I had was in France (another country of gourmets who also like their pizzas).

Now re lordship lane shop gossip - did that woman who was thinking of opening up a Vietnamese restaurant/cafe ever get back to us?

[Siduhe]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Brendan I've been to Italy many times and I have

> not once seen people walking the streets with a

> pizza. In fact the only pizza place i've seen out

> there is Pizza Hut (Rome I think).

Dear Louisa, you're in danger of taking this persona a step too far. No-one who has ever been to Italy (esp. Rome) is going to fall for that...

Edited to say - opps, I see someone has (though I suspect cassius assumed it was a joke too). Sorry admin, last from me on the subject

[Administrator]

I give up.

Lounged

[Louisa]

I was looking forward to the Vietnamese restaurant opening up but that must have been a pie in the sky.

What is going to happen to the Woolwich, I think that would make a great restaurant location.

Louisa.

[candj]

Louisa, Pizza has been around for over 3000 years, in various incarnations. If you go to Naples*, you WILL see pizza everywhere. Some people like to go out to eat pizza as most of us don't have wood burning ovens at home and there is a difference between one from the Iceland freezer section and one from say, Lombardi's Pizza in NY or Antica Pizzeria da Michelle in Naples. I too would love to have a sit down pizza place on LL, next to the McDonalds.

Best,

-C

*a place in Italy

[Cassius]

It was the thought of promenading Italians in their designer clothes with a pizza slice in their hands that got to me.......

[Administrator]

I give up

Lounged.

[Keef]

Now see what you've all done, and after Louisa so bravely tried to drag this thing back on topic!

[Mark]

-- moved topic --

[*Bob*]

Louisa Wrote:

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In fact the only pizza place i've seen out

> there is Pizza Hut (Rome I think).

Lounged.. and all because Louisa won't see a doctor about those cataracts.

[Brendan]

Shame! Shame on you all! I of course absolve myself of any culpability.

Moving on though, I walked down Lordship Lane this morning and you couldn?t move for cockneys in flat caps eating sausage rolls. I suspect they paid too much for them though.

A bit more on topic here, am I correct in assuming that the only place on Lordship Lane that you can buy a pizza is Speedo?s?

And moving on from that, doesn?t it irk you that you really need to have an American accent to use the term Banana-Hammock effectively.

[capt_birdseye]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Brendan I've been to Italy many times

You are SO middle class!!! Don't deny it!

[annaj]

*goes to cook book shelf*

*takes down Antonion Carluccio's book Italia (in case it's not clear - Italian cook book written by Italian)*

*flicks to section on Campania, the region Carluccio was born in*

*reads with interest the paragraph on pizza*

"I still love pizza, eating it in my hands as they do in Naples - it is the quintessential Italian street food."

I was going to make a point, I'm sure, but now I'm way too distracted thinking about Italian food. Mmmmmmm.....

[bigbadwolf]

I like Lasagne myself. I also consider it a crime to eat Italian food without red wine.