The Steve T and Tone whatever thread

[SeanMacGabhann]

turned into? Surely the thread title gives the game away?

[daizie]

Ah ok, I didnt know you could do that , start negative posts about someone . If id have known, I could've started one about you ages ago ;-)

[SeanMacGabhann]

Well you can't/shouldn't really (start negative posts about people) to be fair

I'm not sure why this one has been allowed to stand - possibly Admin wants to use it as an example, I dunno

I know that I and several other people would rather it was removed but there it is

And you don't need to start a thread to make your feelings known about me, DZ ;-)

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Mark Wrote:

I've read through some of his posts, if they seem coherent and normal a quick Google search shows that he's copied it from somewhere and tried on pass it off as his own. Tony didn't like the fact that I pointed it out a couple of times, and then

he made out that I'd committed the crime.

I wasn't going to reply, for the moment, but this posting has pleased me so much that I simply had to post.

What a villain, rogue, rascal, miscreant, reprobate, scapegrace, cad, good-for-nothing, ne'er-do-well, wastrel, rotter and bounder this tls chap is!!(6)

Mark, poor lamb, I think you protesteth just a jot too much but that last line of yours is truly sublime and well worth a repeat...

...and then he made out that I'd committed the crime.

Thank You Mark, that has brightened up my day considerably,

[PeckhamRose]

I reckon I've got about - ohhhh - another 30 years of useful life left.

Who cares what pesky mischevous people write.

Did they incite racial hatred?

Be nice if we could get along and remember this is a PUBLIC forum, so even though you're anonymous, people will still think you're c**ts.

Oh well, back to looking after sick and dying people....

[Mark]

See daizie, you thought it was a negative post about Tony but it has in fact cheered him up. I believe it's called a win-win situation.

[daizie]

so right Mark .

[LegalEagle-ish]

I hate saying anything negative about anyone, but I just couldn't keep my opinions on these two to myself anymore. When I came to London from Merseyside after the econimic destruction wreaked by Maggie, I got the same taking our jobs and homes shit, when most of the working class, white Southerners I encountered where work shy, bigotted, lazy tw@ts. I've never managed to stomache their crap long enough to date one. They put me off white guys for over twenty years. Steve and Tony are prime examples of why most of my friends are non-white - or not British. I'm actually warming to some of the middle class whites down here, after discovering they are not all biggoted arseholes like some of the working class ones down here are.

I work as an aylum and immigration lawyer and I know what they are spouting is total shit, others have given them facts that show that what they are saying is untrue, but in the face of facts to the contrary, they continue to believe negative crap about migrants and asylum seekers - if that's not racism I don't know what is.

What pisses me off more than anything is the fact that my granddad and my father fought for all the rights of working class people from the start of the Labour movement, that enabled Tony and Steve to get a fu(king leg up in the first place, and from their now elevated position, off the backs of people like my granddad and father, they think they can look down on others trying to better their lives.

Go and crawl back under your stone you bunch of twats.

[silverfox]

LegalEagle-ish, I'm trying my best to find a reason to be sympathetic with your arguments and justifications in this overheated affair. Your user name implies a goood standard of education and professionalism and you explain that you work as an asylum and immigration lawyer.

Yet you call for people to be banned, use bad language and seem quite pleased with yourself (on the other thread) that you managed to get a council house - something your skills and abilities would surely deem to be unnecessary.

[LegalEagle-ish]

I got my law degree in 2007.

I was foul mouthed since 1979.

[LegalEagle-ish]

Plus the only reason I stil have a council place - is because I didn't sell out my political beliefs and buy it. So when I move out it will go to another family in need, not the private housing market.

[jollybaby]

LE I can see why you disagree with TLS but why do exactly what he does? In your post you have made the sweeping generalisation that working class southerners are lazy, bigoted, tw@ts. I'm not sure my father and the many others who fit that demographic would be delighted to be thought of as that.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

jollybaby Wrote:

LE I can see why you disagree with TLS but why do exactly what he does?

Thats the whole point I do NOT generalise of make sweeping statements about an entire Race, Gender or Group.

To LE....

I will reply tomorrow as work beckons but I would love to show your post to the millions of Londoners who are still alive and lived in London from 1960 onwards.

The overwhelming majority would utterly despise you.

I do not. You are just a blatant hypocrit with a Law Degree who is, surely, no longer in need of Social Housing but you STILL are in your Council place...

Incidently, how do you fae so well under the points system to acquire one?

You have a Law Degree and yet you are still in Council Housing..utterly fantastic and that sums my impression of you up beautifully.

[LegalEagle-ish]

I lived on the Rockingham Estate for over 20 yrs and I hate to say it, but the poeple there who wanted more for their kids and their community were generally not white Londoners. I don't know why they lacked ambition or politocal understanding, but most of them were more interested in eastenders, slagging off their neighbours and moaning about foreigners.

I was used to a more politicaly active working class up north, so I found it difficult to understand why they were so lazy. These are massive generalisations, because there were the same types of people up north, but even amongst the theives and junkies up north, you would get people with political understanding and a desire to change things.

Tony and Steve remind me of the worst type of white, ex-working class Londoners.

[????]

That's a bit better legal but I don't think fighting prejudice with a prejudice rant yourself is much of a sound argument - dismissing the southern white working class with such generalisations is up their with the sort of prejudice shite that says all scousers are work shy smackheads...I thought you were off the sauce

[LegalEagle-ish]

I am - Tony and Steve just raised my adrenaline level with their bullshit!

I was going to go to TKD and kick stuff this afternoon, but it was cancelled - plus I'm due on, so I'm feeling like a fight!

Probably need a shag too.

Gona go and do some deep breathing and find my centre!

[daizie]

Legal that is your experience. Attempting to be an employer, I am utterly sick to the back teeth of people spouting the race card, when things dont go their own way. It is chucked about too readily in my opinion. I have bitter first hand experience of this . The majority of workers left are caucasian southern / northern british. Does this make me racist . No . I have a business to run . For gods sake have a drink ! Oh and http://www.hitachi--magic--wand.com/ ,sorry , cant get the link to work ;-)

[Santerme]

LE, it is a huge generalisation you make and perhaps it is more of your time than mine.

Whilst I live in the rural idyll of the South West now, I and many of the friends, with whom I have maintained contact over the years all hailed from the bomb ruins of East Dulwich.

I went to Dog Kennel Hill School.

I graduated Durham with a Double First in English and History and Sandhurst fifth in my class.

Of those I went to school with one is a multi millionaire software house owner, another runs a very successful building company, one is a Vicar, another is a microbiologist living in California, yet one more is quite a famous photograher who specialises in interiors of very expensive houses and although was back this week lives in Singapore.

I know at least one other is a GP.

Among the others are some who have had misfortune and less success in life, but I would not catergorise any of them as indolent.

All of them apart from Martin, who is black and the millionaire are white and came from working class roots.

Obviously, I can only speak for my generation as I said and naturally I think the climb was steeper in my day.

Oh, both my brothers went to DKH School, one is a Major in the Royal Marines the other a very senior fire officer in the London Fire Brigade.

[SteveT]

LegalEagle-ish wrote:- I hate saying anything negative about anyone...............

From the ten lines that I wrote in the housing immigrant queue jumpers thread, I would like you to point out where I have shown to be a 'racist bigoted arsehole' as you describe.

How your father and grandfather have helped give me a leg up as you say, does not ring true, I have never had a hand out from any source and have been involved in business since 1970 before that I had a full employment record.

Your intolerance suggests you may be the most bigoted racist (Steve and Tony are prime examples of why most of my friends are non-white - or not British.)

You also state (I work as an aylum and immigration lawyer and I know what they are spouting is total shit)

I was commenting on a news item from radio 4 so I suppose we were spouting the same ......err stuff.

You state you have your own council property,

I would suspect I have contributed as much or more than you or your relatives to the housing stock, paying taxes throughout my working life and being employed in the building industry on council funded building sites.

[HonaloochieB]

I'll get around to reading the rest of this thread perhaps tomorrowish. Maybe. No honest I will.

What I know is that TLS is an heterosexual man who's in love with me. Sporting of him I always thought.

SteveT hasn't really blithered across my horizon in any significant fashion so I don't have an opinion one way or another.

Hope that doesn't sound dismissive Steve.

Seriously, tomorrow I'll read the whole thread and then maybe I'll know what I'm talking about.

[HonaloochieB]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> I'll get around to reading the rest of this thread

> perhaps tomorrowish. Maybe. No honest I will.

> What I know is that TLS is an heterosexual man

> who's in love with me. Sporting of him I always

> thought.

> SteveT hasn't really blithered across my horizon

> in any significant fashion so I don't have an

> opinion one way or another.

> Hope that doesn't sound dismissive Steve.

>

> Seriously, tomorrow I'll read the whole thread and

> then maybe I'll know what I'm talking about.

I suppose there's a first time for everything you silly bastard.

[HonaloochieB]

LegalEagle-ish Wrote:

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> I was going to go to TKD and kick stuff this

> afternoon, but it was cancelled - plus I'm due on,

> so I'm feeling like a fight!

>

> Probably need a shag too.

And number of hairs on arse? State of toe jam?

Jesus, why spare us anything?

[bigbadwolf]

Now now Hona, let them be.

Hopefully we'll return to this tomorrow and they'll have all blamed it on the weather or Clapham and moved on.

[bigbadwolf]

In all seriousness though...just how many hairs have you got on your arse Legal?

[????]

Also legal, regarding southern political consciousness...the BNP has had its greatest political success in the North West (although not Merseyside) and Yorkshire and Humberside - so I'd would possibly question the political consciousness of the northern working class before accusing the southern working class of bigotry