JohnL Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> He's not getting treated fairly by the press at> all, which is sad. He's the leader of the> opposition... he has tremendous support amongst> the public.. we should be hearing his views and> policies. Not all this nonsense about his clothes,> the sodding national anthem, who he shagged 35> years ago, or things members of the shadow cabinet> said in the 80s.The media have quiet for a whileObviously preparing for round 2Frontbench is big - is that normal :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Opposition_frontbench Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 And he has a spin doctor now.http://www.politico.eu/article/corbyns-new-spin-doctor-labour-media-kevin-slocombe-cwu/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I have been bombarded by political stuff from people on facebook who I know are supposed to be at work. It is mostly left wing stuff (they are trying to convert me I think). If these people are so busy spreading the Corbyn message around on social media when they should be working (mostly in the public sector) then we will very soon be fubar (and of course it will be blamed on the PM) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Let's remember though that when he stood for the leadership, he probably didn't think he'd actually win it?Personally I want to see him do well but it is absolutely right to say that he will have to compromise his personal stance on a few things to appease the party. Once there are some policies in place I hope the media attention will focus on those instead. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I see he's now getting stick for not going to the Rugby tonight - probably avoiding another National Anthem :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I'm surprised people didn't see all this coming. It was naive in the extreme to think Corbybabes would be allowed to set any form of political agenda. Hope he can, but not holding my breath... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Well they did. All the neocon/blairites/Blue labour etc etc all saw this coming. He's not helped by being either naive or 'idealistic' -it was obvious his actions were going to be scrutinised to everyone...except him apparently Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-902972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Nothing to do with the media being owned by billionaires and corporations then? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbremer Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 No Fool like and Old Fool. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 He has been forced to support membership of the EU as the party line. Trident is going to be a different battle but he might be best to let the party vote freely on that instead of forcing a whip that many MPs don't agree with. You can already see what's coming. He will compromise on things he doesn't personally believe in to bring the party together and the media will challenge him on that again and again. I don't care if he sings the National Anthem or wears a poppy or not. Policy wise, I agree with his stance on welfare, austerity, housing, jobs, trade unions, tax etc. I don't agree with his stance on NATO or defence and on Trident I have no strong feelings either way. It is very clear that the majority of Labour MPs don't share his views on defence and I suspect a disproportionate amount of time will be given to his difficulties negotiating around that issue. But on others things, I can't see why he can't bring the party to a united consensus. He and McDonnald I suspect, are going to be damned if they do and damned if they don't. The media will do it's best to scare the electorate out of voting for either of them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Farron best be careful what he wishes for. If any big Labour names go to the Lib Dems they'll soon be after his job. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 The view seems to be that Farron is wishful thinking. The Libdems no longer have a fancy office at Westminster (that went to the SNP) and Farron is based at Party HQ. He's not at Westminster enough to know what Labour MPs are thinking. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Huh. I had to look up who Farron was.Actually nuclear disarmament is one of the corbyn policies I actually like... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Me too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Nice of the Daily Mail to take the attention off of Jezza for a few hours. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Twitter in meltdown and Sky making oblique references to pigs ears and ham.People laughing when they look at their phones on the train too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It is such a bizarre story! But it also reminds me of the Hatred Goldsmith eventually had for the Tory Party. Hell hath no fury like a billionaire donor scorned. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Everybody finds it so funny - even George Osborn tried not to laugh when they asked him what he thought. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 all a bit 'Black Mirror' innit? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 brooker's been on it already Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-903977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The dead pig isn't really the story though is it? Lord Ashcroft is a billionaire with non dom status so that he can avoid paying his fair share of tax. Yet he managed to cough up ?8 million to the Tory party, and expected a high profile job in government for it. Cameron didn't give him that job because he was worried about the impact of his non dom status on credibility (and rightly so). We have to stop this ability of tax avoiding, self serving rich people from buying political power. It's totally corrupt. Labour were right to suggest a move towards ending non dom status. It's totally unacceptable in the present economic climate. And that is exactly why someone like Corbyn has gained support. The public are fed up of it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-904015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Its set off twitter something rotten though.Never seen so many pictures of pigs, miss piggy, peppermint pig etc.Lots of people tweeting World politicians (Merkel and Obama/POTUS) in too - wonder what they think.Imagine an Oink in a top level EU meeting. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-904032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Yeah it is funny, I agree with that :D Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-904034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Blah Blah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Yeah it is funny, I agree with that :DDon't know what makes it so funny - but it is - I laughed so much when I first saw it :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-904040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azira Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Blah Blah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> > I definitely think the tide is turning on> corporate interests. Young people especially are> very clued up on how corporations buy politicians> and legislation to serve their own interests at> the expense of everyone else. Curious as to what evidence you have of this (the assertion about corruption, not the views of the youth of today FAOD). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/69667-labour-leadership/page/15/#findComment-904047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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