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louisiana Wrote:

TLS, I have held myself back since you started posting on this forum, but I can do so no longer.


With commendable restraint Lulu....B)




I would really appreciate it if you were to write English in the manner commonly accepted, rather than in a manner that

might be proposed by Germans. (cf Fowler et al.)


I'll do me best me Darling..

Here we go Tony, some data on A&E waiting times. Our own Kings sees 98.3% of its patients within 4 hours. If you've ever been to A&E there, you'll know it is very multi-couloured. I can't see any evidence here of a link between areas with a high % population of non-English speakers and longer waiting times. Barts (includes RL) is over 95%; Bromley is 91.7%. Cornwall does well though. Probably more to with the quality of the hospital than anything else.


http://www.performance.doh.gov.uk/hospitalactivity/data_requests/download/total_time_ae/ae_08_q4_pt3.xls


Them pesky facts eh.

bignumber5 Wrote:

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> Hardly any other patient in "A and E" that night

> spoke English, she said and as a consequence the

> delay to be seen, naturally, took much longer...

> This MUST cause additional delays to all those

> waiting. This would not be a problem in Sheen,

> Truro or dare I say, East Dulwich...

>

> Our local A&E is King's, you do know that don't

> you?!


I'm sure the majority of patients speak The Queens English at Kings though BN5...

louisiana Wrote:

The fact is, TLS, that every time you write, it is as if I were having to take an assault up the jacksie from a German. Really most uncomfortable. I'm sure you will understand.


Well never having received a Teutonic thrust I'm not sure that I do understand Lu but, more importantly, should there be a Capital "T" in Teutonic, Darling ?

While we are, re-assurringly, dealing in "facts", no-one has, thus far, produced the facts to substantiate Huguenot's claims which prompted my 2 questions:


1/What evidence do you have that the Polish workers, in general, did a a better job than the Guys that they substituted from those same jobs?


2/Also what evidence do you have that Guys doing those same Plumbing jobs previously, "charged obnoxious rates for shoddy services "


I would appreciate taper or Mark if you could furnish me with the facts to substantiate Hugo's claims.


Thanks In Anticipation.

1) Unlike admission rates at hospitals or crimes, there are no officially recorded figures around satisfaction with tradesmen of different nationalities - it's a crazy world I know. SO to ANSWER your QUESTION - those figures will never be available Tony - you'll just have to take people's word on it, but that's not their fault. Please don't repeat the question or say that people won't give you an answer. In fact, whatever you are about to say... don't


2) Evidence = how much money is left in your wallet at the end of a job. Or how much difference was between the quote and the final bill. Or how much mopping up one has to do afterwards. The Poles (as an example) have no great racial advantage to the job in hand but they were a bit more eager to get the work - ergo the quote was cheaper and the job got done. This may now have changed as economics and numbers have moved on....

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> louisiana Wrote:

> The fact is, TLS, that every time you write, it is

> as if I were having to take an assault up the

> jacksie from a German. Really most uncomfortable.

> I'm sure you will understand.

>

> Well never having received a Teutonic thrust I'm

> not sure that I do understand Lu but, more

> importantly, should there be a Capital "T" in

> Teutonic, Darling ?


No indeed there should not, dearest Tony, as teutonic is an adjective, and even our darling neighbours the Germans draw the line at capitalising adjectives.


And neither should 'darling' contain an initial capital, dear love, unless of course you are intending me to be your one true love in the world.

taper Wrote:

TLS My role on threads where you are active is to weaken your arguments with facts, not buttress them. Best plumber I ever had was Albanian.


taper, I'm glad you said that, and I'm sure that is true of many others here which is why I can't take too much notice of Stats, official or otherwise, kindly provided here.


If they weaken by argument they are produced with almost indecent nae vulgar haste,


If they strengthen my view they are conspicious by their absence and I long ago learned that they will only be produced if its the former.


So on the basis that you, and many others, have no interest whatsoever in a fair playing field or making impartial, non-biased observations you will understand if I take any Stats etc provided with a pinch of salt me old mucker..:))

louisiana Wrote:

And neither should 'darling' contain an initial capital, dear love, unless of course you are intending me to be your one true love in the world.


I'm getting more than a little interested, can you cook as well as you punctuate Lu ?


Enough of this gay badinage as I'm, inconveniently, off to earn a honest crust....

I dont often get off my high horse, or indeed, get the time to, but TLS you have now totally now GOT MY BACK UP. Well,you use capital letters as shouting, so will I. You have previously intimidated me on this forum, never again. I now see you as some kind of freak, sitting at home, reading the daily mail, or god forbid the sun, salivating over all the media hype. You are only on this forum to cause prejudice of saome kind or other. Where do you get your facts from. You state you only do 12 hours work per week. Dear lord. Why. If you have time to be as critical and prejudiced as you are could you noEt use your spare time doing some sort of charity work. TLS I HATE YOU. So stick that up your bum and smoke it. Edited to say GET OFF AND STAY OFF> Obviously you are going to say nasty things, but, do you know what... go to hell in a hand cart because you deserve it...

You have previously intimidated me on this forum, never again.


Nonsense Lindylou. Show me where I have intimidated you previously on here. You can't just lie so substantiate your comment for the World to see.


An accusation without any foundation whatsoever, didn't your Mother tell you about telling little porkies?



TLS I HATE YOU. So stick that up your bum and smoke it. Edited to say GET OFF AND STAY OFF Obviously you are going to say nasty things, but, do you know what... go to hell in a hand cart because you deserve it...



I've not said any nssty things to anyone that hasn't initiated the same and I cerainly do not intend to start with you.


When you have sobered up perhaps you could coherently inform and enlighten me as to exactly what I have said that caused so much offence.


Based on this outburst I have to say I hold out little hope of you succeeding in articulating your problem but kindly try.


Wasn't nasty at all was it?


Now YOUR comments were downright nasty and you are indeed fortunate that you can abuse your position as one of the longer term members to be able to do that here.


I shall not even begin to stoop to the level that you have demonstrated here but tell me exactly what you do not agree with.

ontheedge Wrote:

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> oh my trouble brewing


Rest assured that there will not be any trouble from my side.


However I've never intimidated anyone in 55 years, either in real life or cyberspace, and certainly do not intend to start now but I do want Lindylou to substantiate her claims on these Public Fora for everyone's perusal as I haven't got a clue what she is referring to but I would like to find out ontheedge.

I'm sitting here not sure where to start. I've not posted for an age, i read the the forum occasionally, i've made friends on here, I'm happy people have different views - it makes life interesting. But seriously, I have to log on and read ill informed racist rants. I haven't read any further than the first page, I don't feel there's any need too. I wanted to get the stats, but it's late.


Steve T. Tone. You are nothing but racist cunts. More the happy to tell you that it person. What the fuck are you on about? The fact our society can accept, and house people who need asylum is something we should be proud of, to claim it there is either no historical link (we're pretty responsible), or to say 'they take away x from us' is utter bollocks. Tone, I hear you were 18 when you applied for social housing, how much fucking tax had you paid to deserve it?


Both of you FUCK OFF. YOUR FUCKING WANKERS. I HOPE YOU'RE BARRED FROM THE FORUM THIS ISNT A REASONABLE VIEW, THIS IS SCUM, SPREADING THE WORD OF SCUM. YOU FUCKING FUCKERS.


I wish I was sober and could be arsed to spend a few hours on facts, but that's life. FUCK OFF THE BOTH YOU.

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