BBC BIAS

[Maurice]

Oh my. I am destined for a bedsit in the Aylesbury.

[Ted Max]

All the main media concentrates on is the trouble, no items on cycle generators (how to make your own), solar panels, eco-loos, cooking &c and most importantly they never filmed me making benches from scrap wood, OK plenty of others at the camp stood around and explained how I was to do it and enjoyed themselves too, I'm not too a standard of teaching others to make their own benches yet.

Cooking?

Also, can I have a bench please, even if you are pisspoor at making them.

[cdonline]

Pro, Are you PC or MAC?

[silverfox]

PROSouthwark Wrote:

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... All the main media concentrates on is the trouble, no items on cycle generators (how to make your own), solar panels, eco-loos, cooking &c and most importantly they never filmed me making benches from scrap wood ...

and

> You laugh while the Council is blatently ignoring

> the voice of real people via the Sustainable

> Communities Act. It is one of many back room

> deals happening that reward the rich land owners.

> We have moved very little from the 1800s.

How does your make your own philosophy move us on from the 1800s?

[????]

PRO= The ghost of William Morris

[Marmora Man]

PROSouthwark - nice little bit of incitement to get people to look up your new blog / website. Apart from that your argument is incoherent, ungrammmatical and false.

[matthew123]

I've no idea what PROSouthwark is banging on about - I know it's been a hot day but still...

[EDKiwi]

I think he wants everyone to hand over their 7 bedroom houses to the new revolutionary peoples collective to fund their continuing struggle to overthrow the oppressive regime that is the BBC.

As I speak they're harping on about a 'heatwave' another blatant piece of misinformation designed to distract us from their true intentions I'm sure.

[Santerme]

PROSouthwark Wrote:

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> For all who see the world for what it is, there

> are likeminded voices all around ready for radical

> change.

>

> As a start, BBC bias and our "beloved, brave

> troops" (NOT): here's what the most powerful new

> website in London sees it:

>

> The Armed Forces day saw the usual bias from all

> involved with the powers that be. Why the need for

> the brave killers of innocents in other countries?

> The reasons for invading Iraq are now shown to be

> lies, even the claim to be creating a democratic

> state after years of dictatorship The biggest

> change has been de-nationalising the oil industry

> for US & UK oil firms advantage. The Armed Forces

> troops are not forced into their job, the armed

> forces are entirely reliant on employees

> volunteering. Next we should have a Bankers' Day

> to show support for the brave individuals who make

> piles of money whilst all around starve.

> Possibly one thing to be learnt by the armed

> dictators day by the independently minded is to

> have a positive slogan for demos'. The problem is

> media coverage, the Climate Camps spring to mind

> as having positive messages for climate change and

> alternatives to have this happen. All the main

> media concentrates on is the trouble, no items on

> cycle generators (how to make your own), solar

> panels, eco-loos, cooking &c and most importantly

> they never filmed me making benches from scrap

> wood, OK plenty of others at the camp stood around

> and explained how I was to do it and enjoyed

> themselves too, I'm not too a standard of teaching

> others to make their own benches yet.

As an ex Army officer, the son and grandson of army officers, all I can say is I am glad you have the freedom to write this, enjoy.

You are welcome from the whole family.....I am sure my long dead Grandfather won't mind me calling it for him.

[antijen]

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ohn Wadham, Liberty

From Monday there will be hundreds, perhaps even thousands, more "terrorist suspects" in Britain.

Under the new Terrorism Act, protestors and activists with no interest in overthrowing the state or harming the general public could find themselves falling under the Act's expanded definition of terrorism.

These people could find themselves subject to draconian powers of investigation and incommunicado detention (up to seven days) - even though, as the experience of previous terrorism laws has proven, the vast majority will never be charged with a remotely terrorist offence.

The Act's extended definition of terrorism includes the use or threat of action that involves serious damage to property (such as GM crops?); is designed to interfere with an electronic system (hackers beware); or "creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public".

'Wide and vague'

The definition is so wide and vague that much will depend on the police's interpretation as to who is a terrorist.

In fact the police already have very substantial powers under existing criminal law (which already covers most of the offences this Act seeks to address).

The Act creates a two-tier system in which people suspected of a criminal act for moral or political reasons will have fewer rights than someone who commits a similar crime for reasons of lust, greed or viciousness.

We believe that the public, like us, may have difficulty in seeing GM food protestors or anti-roads protestors as 'terrorists' in the accepted meaning of the word.

Ban

The Home Secretary now also has the right to ban a whole range of groups.

Liberty believes that only actions should be subject to criminal sanctions and imprisonment, not mere indications of support or involvement in political organisations.

Freedom of expression and assembly are too important in any democratic society to be eroded in this way.

Furthermore this particular law is unnecessary.

Aid and abet

Under the general law it is already a criminal offence to aid and abet another to commit an offence, so direct support and raising money for the purposes of crime are already outlawed.

Furthermore, under this Act exiled supporters of Nelson Mandela who publicly supported the armed struggle in South Africa would have been classified as terrorists.

The offence of "incitement" may be committed by mere words and there will be clashes with the right to freedom of expression.

It will also be very difficult to ensure that the trials are fair if the witnesses and evidence are from another country.

Those who support struggles for human rights and democracy in other countries may find themselves under investigation by the police.

Those who have fled from repressive regimes to the safety of this country will become a legitimate target of the police merely because they support the overthrow of that regime, even when they themselves are opposed to violence.

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The freedom is an illusion and I think it is simple enough to understand that there is much more to people or groups who stand up to injustices than just seeing them as trouble makers, anarchists or people who have nothing positive to give.

[macroban]

Welcome home 3 Commando Brigade Royal Marines.

[plimsoul]

bashing the bbc is an odd one to pick. there is a whole other list of worse people...we could start with associated press, fox international etc... or maybe you are working for murdoch?

prosouthwark, do you know how lucky you are to be in this country compared to a bombed out refugee camp? go work for the red cross and use your energy in a positive way. or is the red cross another tool of the rich, in which case my poor uncle was wasting his life in hiroshima after the war and my other uncle should never have bothered wasting his life establishing the world peace movement.

[Horsebox]

Hello Snorky.

[dulwichmum]

*Wafts into hilarious thread in full length flowing pure silk kaftan*

Can I offer anyone a nice tall G&T? Ice and a slice sweetie? Vino anyone?

[matthew123]

I guess antijen we'll have to hope the Police and Home Secretary don't abuse the new law like Terrorists and their Spin Doctors have previously abused their freedom

[Tony.London Suburbs]

PROSouthwark Wrote:

For all who see the world for what it is, there are likeminded voices all around ready for radical change.

If I join up with you and we get the radical change that is required, can I still watch Match Of The Day on The Beeb please?

[PROSouthwark]

Antijen understands. Wake up folks.

The website is not mine. I merely champion its cause. It has full support from the SE5 Forum and the Camberwell Blog often highlights the cause. Perhaps they are more serious minded people.

[antijen]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6244005.ece

I think you'll find the police have already abused them.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

All I'm asking is that under any necessary re-construction and re-organisation of The BBC that we still retain Match Of The Day please..

[PROSouthwark]

Police state Britain is an understatement.

[Santerme]

PROSouthwark Wrote:

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> Police state Britain is an understatement.

Boy oh boy you should have been in Belfast in the 80's.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

As I have not received any written authority or confirmation that MOTD is part of your revised schedule for The Beeb then it is with the utmost regret that this particular revolution can start without me....

Right On Bruvvers..

[northlondoner]

Santerme, when/where did you serve? Any views on current leadership. My ex girlfriend's big bro been serving in Afghan and Iraq. He and a cadre of other young officers have some very interesting views re role of armed forces in foreign policy arena. Tending more towards the warrior philospher approach of Gen Petreaus (sp) rather than the "shock and awe approach" of Colin Powell.

[Huguenot]

I kind of think that people who use threats or acts of violence to achieve their goals are terrorists.

The violent destruction of property, or barricading of roads or runways falls into this category.

Just because it's a 'GM' field doesn't make it exempt.

It annoys me when these nasty little people, often with limited reasoning skills, would use the freedom others have won them to take it away from our society.

[Santerme]

northlondoner Wrote:

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> Santerme, when/where did you serve? Any views on

> current leadership. My ex girlfriend's big bro

> been serving in Afghan and Iraq. He and a cadre of

> other young officers have some very interesting

> views re role of armed forces in foreign policy

> arena. Tending more towards the warrior

> philospher approach of Gen Petreaus (sp) rather

> than the "shock and awe approach" of Colin Powell.

Happy to answer first part in PM and second part later this afternoon, busy day ahead, I fear.