Sainsburys - disabled parking (Lounged)

[Huguenot]

Well I think a nice touch would be the landscaping of a double decker car park at Sainsbury, with a permanent parking security force and nice clean bogs.

Then:

The pedestrianisation of the stroll into Lordship Lane

Pedestrianisation of North Cross Road.

Residents only parking on the roads surrounding LL

Removal of all parking on LL itself

Widening of the pavements on LL

Widening of the cafe frontages on LL

Deliveries only 7am to 8am and 7pm to 8pm

Hanging baskets and benches

[????]

I knew you'd like it and extend it...;-)

[????]

Infact I'm with you - let's go mall city in SE22, we could cover and pedestranise....just like like, erm, Bromley...great

[*Bob*]

Prioritise proximity to entrance based on size of car being parked.

Small friendly car - park next to entrance with a conveyor belt to get you to the door. Free coffee and shoe shine.

Big stupid car - park at Dog Kennel Hill, walk over hot coals to entrance, arrive back to find car smothered in faeces.

[the-e-dealer]

The reason they are close to the store is because car parks are quite dangerous for people who dont actually reach the hight of the windows of cars. Also Sainsburys chose a more dangerous layout for their car park than they had to.

[Loz]

I have a small stupid car... where do I park?

[the-e-dealer]

In the Small stupid bays!

[sophiesofa]

i have no car and don't know where to park either.

[Domitianus]

taper Wrote:

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> The Sainsbury's car park is a dangerous place.

> Parent parking bays are close to the store to

> minimise the danger to children and wider to give

> parents more space to get in and out with

> children. It is a safety provision. And most

> people with children welcome it.

Tell me you are joking. PLEASE!!!! "The Sainsbury's car park is a dangerous place." What utter b*****s!!!! If the Sainsbury's car park is a dangerous place then the rest of ED must be a hellish death trap. Get a grip!!!!

[the-e-dealer]

In the No Car Bays! But Don't stay longer than 2 hours!

[the-e-dealer]

I hope you aren't a driver or a parent or both!

[Domitianus]

jenren Wrote:

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> Quite often when I'm parked in regular stalls we

> get back to the car and someone has parked so

> close to our car that I can't get my kid into his

> car seat. That little extra bit of room gets him

> in and out safely. I know that parents shouldn't

> get special treatment, but it's also true that

> life with a toddler is scary enough. If a trip to

> any business is nightmarish with him than I really

> do stop going (childless people smiling

> everywhere). But the wise businesses know this,

> hence parent stalls.

And cramped parking, making it difficult to open doors, is not a problem for those without children???? We just slither through keyholes????? This stuff about "safety" is claptrap. This is simply a matter of CONVENIENCE, not safety. And those with children are very accomplished at making the world feel that everything should be made more convenient for them just because they have made a certain lifestyle CHOICE!!!

[the-e-dealer]

Children are more likely to be the victims in a car accident, And in London 75% of accidents where there are injuries involve people outside the car. I know when I am trying to park or pull away and there are kids about it is much harder to do safely as you cant see them and they will be unpredictable. Also if I ran over a child I could never forgive myself.

Safety is designed into roads, cars, Pavements, Buses, Trains, Stations, Bus stops - even Car Parks ! Believe it! Pedestrians especially small ones are highly vulnerable.

[Domitianus]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Children are more likely to be the victims in a

> car accident, And in London 75% of accidents where

> there are injuries involve people outside the car.

> I know when I am trying to park or pull away and

> there are kids about it is much harder to do

> safely as you cant see them and they will be

> unpredictable. Also if I ran over a child I could

> never forgive myself.

> Safety is designed into roads, cars, Pavements,

> Buses, Trains, Stations, Bus stops - even Car

> Parks ! Believe it! Pedestrians especially small

> ones are highly vulnerable.

So what? Is everyone else's experience is to be dictated by your fear that you might knock a child down? If the risk is so significant then why not prohibit children from being allowed in a car park, outside the vehicle at all? Why not surrender your drivng licence? Car parks are environments where cars are driven comparatively slowly and drivers are usually particular alert to ther environment (if for no other reason than to spot a parking space). There will always be POTENTIAL risk in ANY situation. If car parks are considered a hazard then the, by comparison, utterly lethal streets of London should be declared child-free zones to protect th little beggars.

And your blend/blur of stats and inferences is highly dubious.

[Domitianus]

And if visibility in car parks is an issue can we also ban the Chelsea Tractors used to transport these children there in the first place? The are so high up that visibility could be impaired

[the-e-dealer]

Hear Hear !

[lenk]

Domitianus Wrote:

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> And if visibility in car parks is an issue can we

> also ban the Chelsea Tractors used to transport

> these children there in the first place? The are

> so high up that visibility could be impaired

The offspring of these self-important parents should be kept on leads at all time when within ED Sainsbury's, lest they be accidentally clipped round the ear by a passerby / accidentally pushed into a chest freezer.

Sainsbury's can be a dangerous place.

[the-e-dealer]

I know that impact by a Chelsea Tractor is more likely to injure but anyone got the stats on the number of accidents they are involved in?

[????]

same old shite - turn the record off

[????]

oooh you hip urban cats keepin it real in family suburbia respeck

*attempts finger flickin' hip sign turns into wanker gesture*

[the-e-dealer]

Why so angry? Dont you have children? Car ? Chelsea Tractor?

[lenk]

???? Wrote:

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> oooh you hip urban cats keepin it real in family

> suburbia respeck

>

> *attempts finger flickin' hip sign turns into

> @#$%& gesture*

where's the sign in ED that says 'welcome to family suburbia'?

There's kids who live in Hoxton, it doesn't mean I have to tolerate them / can't ridicule their wet parents

[DaveR]

"And those with children are very accomplished at making the world feel that everything should be made more convenient for them just because they have made a certain lifestyle CHOICE!!!"

A lifestyle choice that brought you into the world, Dom......oh well, no going back now.

[????]

there isn't one, i just thought the place being stacked with victorian family housing was not a bad clue, you being such a hip urban, and no doubt thoroughly middle class dude (hint, hint having a drink in the wishing well once in a whie aim't that urban) probanly don't want the reality to impinge on your rather cute little vision of yourself and 'manor'

[lenk]

???? Wrote:

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> there isn't one, i just thought the place being

> stacked with victorian family housing was not a

> bad clue, you being such a hip urban, and no doubt

> thoroughly middle class dude (hint, hint having a

> drink in the wishing well once in a whie aim't

> that urban) probanly don't want the reality to

> impinge on your rather cute little vision of

> yourself and 'manor'

Hackney is also full of 'victorian family housing', Mr Social Geographer.

I'd say 90% of the people on this forum are middle-class, the working class usually aren't given the opportunity to bicker about what class people might be from on the internet, at least during working hours.

As you don't know me or anything about me aside from a half-remembered post in a distant pub thread, I'd suggest you retire your um, rapier-like chiding.