Lordship Lane incident

[Jamma]

I love this forum because I wanted to know what was going on so came on here and sure enough got an answer.

But some of the responses on this thread have been weird.

[jctg]

Jamma Wrote:

> But some of the responses on this thread have been

> weird.

In what way?

[SCSB79]

a couple of cops in forensic suits as I walked by just after 7pm... would suggest a nasty ending????

[Michael Palaeologus]

Administrator Wrote:

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> Sorry if I appear "heavy handed", I am simply

> asking people to not post rumours as they can be

> detrimental to the incident, such as the

> "someone's been killed" "no one's been killed"

> posts.

You know when Admin politely requested the above? Well .......

[max wellhouse]

Thank goodness I live in the relatively peaceful backwater that is Peckham Rye!

When I get in from work and have taken my stab vest off, I do so love to log on to the EDF and see what mayhem is occuring in the East Dulwich 'hood.

Perhaps the BBC should commission a new docusoap ... East (Dulwich) Enders! Any takers?

[Eliza.D]

I hope that everyone involved in this incident is ok.

Even being a witness to a violent incident can be traumatic.

I would not like to speculate what the catalyst or motive for this incident may have been, but am sure the Police will be thorough in their investigation.

Given the success of Barry Station Manager on this forum, would it not be a good idea for the Local police Station to adopt a similar stance and have a person who we can ask questions too and get some sort of reassuring response.

[wigglebear]

MinaBlue, the incident didn't take place on Worlingham.. When the guys were caught here, it wasn't like there was a big take-down with guns a-blazin'. Everything happened in a calm and civilized manner. This is (usually) a very calm street and you have nothing to worry about.

As an American, I find that often people seem to over-react to everything here, but maybe I'm just way too blas?.

[agitator1]

If it was a gang fight, and one of them did meet an end.....well that's one less hoodlum on the streets

[shieldbuilding]

i seen it all happen straight off while working on a roof,on matham grove, the main stabbings, i was the one who rang the police, just spent the past 2 hours giving statements! whats wrong with kids nowadays eh...like seriously...im totally wierded out

[thebeard]

They aren?t kids ????. they are maniac gangstaaassss!

They stopped being kids by about 10 these days, by that age they have seen heard and been involved in more than most over 40?s have.

Most of them are left at home alone whilst mum works 7 days a week some are looked after by the older sister / brother or granny or left at a friends house.

Usually Mum doesn?t have a man in her life let alone the father of the gangstaaaa.. If she even knew who he was.??

The gangstaaaaa have seen every kind of porn imaginable and every kind of sick depraved movie and listened to hours of nonsense gangstaaa rap.

At school they probably behaved like angels and learnt absolutely nothing which will be of any use in the real world.

They know at a very early age they will never be able to buy the bling Rolex or the Lamborghini.

They have been failed by their parents and by the education system doomed before they get to their teens.

The authorities and PC nonsense fail them by not stopping and searching them for knives.

I was in Paris a couple of months ago for one day and saw Police stopping and searching lots of youths on the metro probably 10 or so.

In all my time in London on the tube and in the hood I think I?ve seen two stop and searches?

Our Police are great when it?s all happened

But dealing with these poor sad sorry gangstaaas before they kill each other

They are sadly pathetic.

[KalamityKel]

id like 2 point out i was not picking up on admins instructions as a silly request as i fully appreciate the damage and upset caused by incorrect infornation and rumours spread about can do - many of us have been on the recieving end. I just think perhaps it could have been said in a more relaxed and friendly way and considering most i stress most were posting sensible on the spot reports...tis all

[shieldbuilding]

mate, have you ever seen the face of a 14 year old boy who has blood spurting from his neck? trust me ...he looks like ...'a kid' ...a very scared kid ...and its not pretty!

[reetpetite]

thebeard Wrote:

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> They aren?t kids ????. they are maniac

> gangstaaassss!

>

>

> They stopped being kids by about 10 these days, by

> that age they have seen heard and been involved in

> more than most over 40?s have.

>

>

> Most of them are left at home alone whilst mum

> works 7 days a week some are looked after by the

> older sister / brother or granny or left at a

> friends house.

>

>

> Usually Mum doesn?t have a man in her life let

> alone the father of the gangstaaaa.. If she even

> knew who he was.??

>

>

> The gangstaaaaa have seen every kind of porn

> imaginable and every kind of sick depraved movie

> and listened to hours of nonsense gangstaaa rap.

>

>

> At school they probably behaved like angels and

> learnt absolutely nothing which will be of any use

> in the real world.

>

> They know at a very early age they will never be

> able to buy the bling Rolex or the Lamborghini.

>

> They have been failed by their parents and by the

> education system doomed before they get to their

> teens.

>

>

> The authorities and PC nonsense fail them by not

> stopping and searching them for knives.

>

> I was in Paris a couple of months ago for one day

> and saw Police stopping and searching lots of

> youths on the metro probably 10 or so.

>

> In all my time in London on the tube and in the

> hood I think I?ve seen two stop and searches?

>

>

> Our Police are great when it?s all happened

>

> But dealing with these poor sad sorry gangstaaas

> before they kill each other

>

> They are sadly pathetic.

A scary and sad post but unfortunately very true.

[thebeard]

shieldbuilding Wrote:

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> >

> mate, have you ever seen the face of a 14 year old

> boy who has blood spurting from his neck? trust me

> ...he looks like ...'a kid' ...a very scared kid

> ...and its not pretty!

Yea a kid who a couple of minutes before was a gangstaaaaa ready to stab anyone who looked at him funny or disrespected him.

Even a 30 year old will look like a kid when they get stabbed.

I know I start going all glazy eyed and become a child when I cut my finger with a kitchen knife.

We all know these ?kids? have been failed miserably by our society.

We do them no favours by allowing them to strut around and carry weapons.

[Gimme]

SOCO are roaming our street in plastic suits at the moment photographing the pavement.

We're not allowed to walk on the pavements in Matham Grove.

The detective doing the door to door said he wasn't getting much as most people were out.

We're taking the attitude that it could happen anywhere so aren't worrying much.

It must be worrying if you've got teenagers though.

To quote Ian Rankin (the crime writer), when a body was found in a wheelie bin round the corner from his house in Edinburgh:

"It's not the sort of thing you expect to happen round here!"

[brodie]

The Met Police say the following:

3 people with stab wounds - 18 year-old with wounds to leg in hospital in a stable condition, 16 year-old with stab wounds to legs and arms in a serious (not life threatening) condition and third victim age not known non-serious wounds. Three men have been arrested.

[shieldbuilding]

brodie Wrote:

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> The Met Police say the following:

> 3 people with stab wounds - 18 year-old with

> wounds to leg in hospital in a stable condition,

> 16 year-old with stab wounds to legs and arms in a

> serious (not life threatening) condition and third

> victim age not known non-serious wounds. Three men

> have been arrested.

the one with stab wounds to his leg is the one i saw with the knife, chasing another lad down matham grove who had blood spurting rom his neck

[Eliza.D]

Surely these kids are known to their teachers in school and the school should be feeding back to parents any concerns and for that matter the police.

When children enter the secondary school system the school should have a partnership with the parent/parents ('every Child Matters)and should insist on parent feedback.

I can't imagine that any parent just doesn't care what their child is doing, and hasn't worried that they would get that knock on the door saying their child has been involved in an 'incident'

[lilolil]

the original incident will have been recorded by CCTV on the bus, so that they will be easily identified. But how sad

[jctg]

Eliza.D Wrote:

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> I can't imagine that any parent just doesn't care

> what their child is doing

oh yeah?

[Nero]

Are the buses being diverted still? Is LL closed? Am coming back from work in about an hour.

[KalamityKel]

not a gaurantee tho. Not all bus cameras work and depends the model of the bus as 2 where cameras r positioned. And of course depends who was where

Soz 4 the boring talk but tis true

[SCSB79]

Eliza.D Wrote:

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> Surely these kids are known to their teachers in

> school and the school should be feeding back to

> parents any concerns and for that matter the

> police.

>

> When children enter the secondary school system

> the school should have a partnership with the

> parent/parents ('every Child Matters)and should

> insist on parent feedback.

>

> I can't imagine that any parent just doesn't care

> what their child is doing, and hasn't worried that

> they would get that knock on the door saying their

> child has been involved in an 'incident'

Unfortunately, I think the parents are half the problem.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

The Beard, you are spouting a load of crap.

My daughter knows one of the boys who has been injured. He's a local lad, and not in a gang.

[shieldbuilding]

lilolil Wrote:

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> the original incident will have been recorded by

> CCTV on the bus, so that they will be easily

> identified. But how sad

it wasnt on the bus , the kid trying to escape tried to get on the bus to get away, the main incident was on matham gr

GIMME ...is the detective still there?