AllforNun Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 The soon to be released digital Britain report will effectively draw the lines around what is good for government and state. The BBC will be handed even more power, effectively already heavily indebted to the government, it's online news service will become even 'softer' if that's possible, there will also be a stern warning about expenses - just for the headlines !To counter this they will claim that freedom of speech and democracy, not to mention slightly rebellious broadcasting, is being saved as they throw a lifeline to Channel4. They will omit to mention that Channel4 has long been pushed into the bosom of the BBC, having been overrun by ex BBC staff and government pressure in the run up to the funding issue. ITN the a thorn in the side of government SPIN will be given a sink or swim option and ITV will just get decimated. So Murdoch on one side and the spectre of Whitehall on the other....... meanwhile we will all continue to sleep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenk Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I heard Obama was spotted at a Bilderberg meeting. http://www.film.it/fnts/film/immagini/278x182/signs03.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 AllforNun, the Digital Britain final report is due to be published 16 June. The consultation period - during which members of the public were free to contribute - is over. In the meantime, it seems a little fruitless the speculate about what things might be said in something that hasn't yet been published. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 No speculation spank monkey and do me a favour - "the consultation period - during which members of the public were free to contribute - is over"What the hell are you ? i am intrigued ....animal, vegetable or mineral ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 AfN don't be rude. A reasonable point was made.Off to the NunheadForum with this rudeness, with you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 AllforNun Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> No speculation spank monkey and do me a favour - > > "the consultation period - during which members of> the public were free to contribute - is over"> > What the hell are you ? i am intrigued ....animal,> vegetable or mineral !Some days are animal. And some I'm vegetable. B)Today, being surrounded by chard seedlings and wind-up devices, I'm mainly on the vegetable-mineral axis. But it is true that there was a first report, and then a consultation period, and now the final report will be published (unfortunately while I am parked in a tent on a farm - so very vegetable - and so far removed from all that is digital). I do believe it's more productive to turn over the living - paper, vegetable - entrails of reports, and indeed to protest vehemently as is often required, rather than to speculate about what some future report might possibly say. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 lenk, I've always wanted to hang out at Bilderberg. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 "unfortunately while I am parked in a tent on a farm - "How strange i am also in a Tipi at an obscure but cool acoustic festival, the joy of technology. Anyway as for digestion, i have already told you so start digesting, the time for speculation has passed.Hows the weather where you are ? i think there is a storm brewing here, my fairy lanterns are going to get buggered. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 Oops there it is ! Ben Bradshaw, a former BBC journalist, has been appointed the new culture, media and sport secretary. Bradshaw's appointment at the Department for Culture, Media and Sport means ministerial responsibility for the BBC will be held by one of its former employees.Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Bilderberg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-209927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antijen Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I thought a consultation period was when they say they want to hear your views but dont listen, Allfornun and Lousiana hope your both having a magic time, cant wait to get in the great outdoors, have fun. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-211164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whynniard Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I notice today that the BBC have made a very public dressing down of it's 'suddenly' overpaid presenters ? maybe this report has already got out in the open as has been suggested ? Interesting that the managerial teams are only getting a pay freeze while they expect others to take a pay cut ! That's very MP esque of them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-212039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Surpise ! not.so the beeb are being asked to give up, if my calculations are right 3.6% of there annual budget of 3.6billion ! and none of that money was programming money it was extra money that was donated by the government to pay for the cost of switching to digital. Christ the state sponsored mouthpiece remains virtually untouched. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-213451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 so there you go - BBC gets to keep it's 3.6 and rising Billion and everyone else gets fucked or fudged and we get charged 50p and month for 2meg broadband, ive got 8meg now so so what ! And why because the government think that the 27% of the population who regard the BBC as truly the british Empire ( do not give a shit about the the 73% who would not really notice if the beeb only got 2.6 billion a year and 1billion went else where !lets take to the streets alah iran ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-213827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Sometimes I can't work you out AfN.Is it the BBC that get's your beef, or the state?If it's the latter, why are so many of your posts about Auntie? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-213971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwick Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 AllforNun Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> lets take to the streets alah iran !I assume you mean 'ala iran'... ::o Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-213990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 The BBC is the state !how about giving 1 billion to someone else to produce some content ! maybe even a better way of delivering it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 'The BBC is the state'So, I guess, in your view, is just about everything else - why do you focus on the BBC? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 no just the beeb ! and the focus my friend is nothing more sinister than the fact they get 3.6billion a year they are a law unto themselves the head of SUBTITLING gets 547.000 pounds a year and they bleat on about market rates that they them selves set. Wait till you see there expenses, which you won't as a controlled media is second only to a nuclear device !much loveAFN Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 The Head of Subtitling gets 547,000 pounds a year?;-) You made that up! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 No i did not ....head of access service ?547,000 in fact there are 11 senior execs who earn over that amount and none of them are the Director general.use the freedom of info act if you want Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 oh sorry how silly of me because of course you cannot as....The corporation is exempt from the Freedom of Information Act where information related to its "journalism, art or literature" is concerned.yes that's how well hidden they are ! this includes all info by the way Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Just to set the record straight, the BBC has only 744 senior managers. Of these, just 13 have salaries over ?250,000 a year; only 83 earn over ?160,000; a bare 172 have salaries above ?130,000; and 343 of them are scraping along on pittances of not much more than ?100,000.As for the director-general Mark Thompson, no reasonable person could grudge him his ?816,000 salaryLAST JULY yes LAST JULY (who new about the financial crisis ) - the BBC awarded modest pay rises of up to ?107,000!!!!! each to executive directors. there are 10 of them so that is a cool million ! they are so executive they missed the fact that we were nose diving into a recession but WTF do they care, because the licence fee does not change and in fact during a recession is worth way more !!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 ....round 2....the crushing ego of the BBC IIBritish broadcasting is sliding towards monochromic mediocrity. Counterintuitive as it may sound, the best way to rescue it would be to cut funding for the BBC and share out the proceeds of the licence fee.Someone, sometime, however, will have to admit that the old model of public service broadcasting is broken. As long as it continues to be held hostage to a BBC monopoly, there is nothing to be done. The ferocity with which it defends its ground is something to behold. Thus a recent Tory proposal to freeze the licence fee for a year in view of the straitened economic times elicited the hysterical response that the BBC's political independence was under threat.read on at http:/www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e255a868-5a0e-11de-b687-00144feabdc0.htmlSo here is ferocity coming back at you .......politicians AFN says.......... " start carving them barstards UP ! " Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I've got the BBC's annual report, and there's no executive role for a 'Head of Subtitling' or 'Head of Access', and no salary assigned.Is it possible you've been getting your info third hand, and you can't differentiate between fact and fiction?The Board roles are 'Head of Vision' (TV) etc.The salaries are predominantly in the 300k range, and whilst high, they do reflect well aganist the salaries of individuals running equivalent businesses in the private sector.For example Peter Chernin of News Corp last year received US$27.4m in annual salary for being the COO (not the owner, mind, just another board member). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 ...or the CEO of Sky, who took home US$7m... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6543-digital-britain-report-state-sponsored-media-service/#findComment-214520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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