*Bob* Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I agree with Boris on this one. Whilst there are still plenty of places within inner London in need of regeneration, developers need to be kept away from the cheaper-to-utilise greenfield sites further out. 'Cos if they are given the choice, they'll (of course) go for profit/margin and leave the more-expensive-to-develop stuff to rot. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I agree with Louisa - a lot of the green belt isn't pretty countryside - just reducing it by say 500 yards would add enormously to building land and, combined with brownfield, help reduce prices etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 London is terrible: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/02/london-new-york-capital Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I'm hoping that article is tinged with genuine irony, and a giant tongue in cheek. If not she is possibly one of the most annoying guardianistas to walk the wastelands of Islington looking for a 10 quid coffee. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Clearly tongue in cheek."No wonder so many people I know are leaving London: and the fact that they?re all in their 30s, starting to have children and therefore wanting bigger houses and more school options, and happen to have amazingly flexible jobs that allow them to live where they want, is a mere coincidence.I also looked at my local high street, where I used to see such a pleasing ethnically mixed selection of shops: the Greek shop that sold olives, the Indian shop that sold spices, the Spanish shop that sold cheese. Obviously I never shopped at any of them ? there?s a Waitrose up the road ? but it was always good to know they were there."It's actually quite funny. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The piece makes the point but in a pretty clunky and cheesy way. One thing's definitely for sure: journalism is absolutely 'the profession that eats itself' - on a weekly basis. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Was expecting yet another awful article on why another bitter journalist is leaving London... was pleasantly surprised to read a reasonably amusing piss-take! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Indeed, during the fist couple of lines, I was taking it seriously, but soon realised it was a piss take, and quite a good one. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabot Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 My initial response to these Guardian pieces was irritation, I like London and will generally defend it. However, the middle classes are a malleable and willing herd. So, if these articles encourage people to leave and make London a little less crowded by the chattering classes, then fine. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siduhe Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I read it as totally tongue in cheek. Made me smile a lot. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanW Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I found that quite funny... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 She's probably married to the guy who wrote the first article about leaving. They cooked the whole thing up together over the weekend when they were short of copy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Either way, I wish these people would just leave or stop banging on about leaving. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanW Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 erm yeah, but isn't that what this article is getting at? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Louisa Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Either way, I wish these people would just leave> or stop banging on about leaving. Devon, wasn't it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I'm taken by Sussex now. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 We will stop the exodus to Wales http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/london-to-have-its-own-national-anthem-2015070299809 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-868886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Up with this sort of thinghttp://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/04/leave-london-never-ill-be-staying-and-fighting-for-it?CMP=share_btn_fb Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Great stuff! I'm already looking forward to the rash of articles come 2019 - when journalists who've grown tired of trying to grow their own courgettes and pleading with their friends to visit them - return to 'rediscover' London. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 *Bob* Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Great stuff! I'm already looking forward to the> rash of articles come 2019 - when journalists> who've grown tired of trying to grow their own> courgettes and pleading with their friends to> visit them - return to 'rediscover' London.I doubt it'll be that long Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It's essential to see the exile through for a few years so you can still claim it as a victory / the right thing to do at the time etc Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 *Bob* Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> who've grown tired of trying to grow their own> courgettes Our first batch if courgettes was delicious, no need to move beyond zone 3. Though I guess that zone 3 is tantamount to social death for Guardian's Dalston elite... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Isn't there a Stewart Lee sketch (which I can't find) where a couple are espousing country living but end up begging him to come and visit, and 'By the way, any chance you could bring some cocaine?' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 One of those recent articles featured a 40-something media-something-or-other moving to... Brighton..... What an earth shatteringly different existence that will be! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/64551-london-the-city-that-ate-itself/page/2/#findComment-870416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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