Memory lane local photographs

[Louisa]

Holdron's Department Store, Rye Lane, Peckham, c1927.

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Top of Rye Lane/Peckham Rye, c1897.

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Under the railway arch with Peckham Rye station in background, c1927.

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St. Peter's Church, Lordship Lane, c1890.

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Court Farm, Dulwich, c1923.

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Dulwich Park, c1905.

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All pictures found on www.southwarkcollections.org.uk.

Many more can be found on the above website.

Louisa.

[Ann]

Thanks I enjoyed those.

[lilolil]

Yes! I enjoyed looking at those too and will save the site...thanks!!!

[francine]

wonderful, thanks so much...

[DrDom]

Brilliant! Any idea where court farm was? And the dulwich park entrance. is that court lane? If so, wonder where that house went?

[dv1]

That is the Court Lane entrance - and the house is still there!

[DrDom]

I'm going mad. I could have swore the house was on the other side of the entrance. Thanks! anyone know where court farm was?

[Louisa]

I have a feeling that Court Farm was pulled down when Court Lane was bought for new housing to be built in the 1930's, I may be wrong of course. I have a distant uncle coming to stay with me from Canada in June and he requested some pictures of Holdron's before he came over because his wife had her wedding dress made there in 1943. I came across these other wonderful pictures and some recent research shows that the old corridors and shop floor levels remain pretty much untouched from when Holdron's closed down in 1948. The council have been looking at ways of re-opening the building for small shops to use the arcades.

Louisa.

[lenk]

Nice to see what the Memory Lane area used to look like. Before they built those awful flats on it.

[Eileen]

Louisa Wrote:

he requested some pictures of

> Holdron's before he came over because his wife had

> her wedding dress made there in 1943. I came

> across these other wonderful pictures and some

> recent research shows that the old corridors and

> shop floor levels remain pretty much untouched

> from when Holdron's closed down in 1948. The

> council have been looking at ways of re-opening

> the building for small shops to use the arcades.

> Louisa.

Louisa - do you mean the Holdron's that was on Rye Lane between Bournemouth Rd and the railway line? If so can you give more detail so I can be sure which buildings you refer to? I have been exploring the shop buildings in that location myself and I am not aware of the Council doing any thing in relation to them in particular. But maybe you are referring to some other shops. Just would like to be sure. If anyone else is doing some work I'd like to be able to contact them.

[Townleygreen]

Maybe Court farm was where Eastlands Crescent is now? That was the last part of CL to be built on I believe - 20s or 30s?

[Louisa]

Eileen,

Holdron's was a very large shop which stretched from the railway bridge near the station all the way down to the junction with Bournemouth RD and then half way down Bournemouth RD itself, with an arcade running from the entrance on Rye Lane right through the centre of the building and coming out onto the entrace in Bournemouth RD. Apparantly the council along with some other parties have been looking at ways of opening these arcades up for the use of shops but they have been talking about this for at least a decade and it all looks to be the same to me still.

Louisa.

[Eileen]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Eileen,

>

> Holdron's was a very large shop which stretched

> from the railway bridge near the station all the

> way down to the junction with Bournemouth RD and

> then half way down Bournemouth RD itself, with an

> arcade running from the entrance on Rye Lane right

> through the centre of the building and coming out

> onto the entrace in Bournemouth RD. Apparantly the

> council along with some other parties have been

> looking at ways of opening these arcades up for

> the use of shops but they have been talking about

> this for at least a decade and it all looks to be

> the same to me still.

> Louisa.

Thanks Louisa

It is Peckham Vision and the Peckham Society that have been working on this. They have successfully brought it all into the public debate for the Peckham Area Action Plan consultation. Yes, and now the Council is asking for views on how to revive that whole area of Rye Lane along with the large Copeland Quarter behind it. You can find some of the ideas here: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Transforming_Central_Rye_Lane and specifically about the Holdron's arcade: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/b/b5/Holdron%27s_factsheet.pdf

The current Council consultation is explained here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/futurepeckham Eventually the draft PNAAP will go to a Public Hearing in 2010. Well before then we hope that the Council will be persuaded to work with the property owners to commission proposals for bringing the historic buildings back into prominence along with new developments. We have managed to get to that stage with the ideas for transforming the station, see: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Peckham_Rye_Station so why not with the land and buildings across the road that are just as full of potential?

There are two events in June for anyone keen to know more about all this:

* There will be a Peckham Society walk around the Copeland Quarter, Bussey building and Peckham Rye station on Sunday 28 June 2.0pm-3.30pm, see details here: http://www.peckhamsociety.org.uk/events/index.html That will be a great way to understand a lot more about it.

* If anyone would like to know more before then they could come to the Peckham Society stall at the Choumert Square Open Gardens Day on Sunday 7th June 11am-4pm where we will have some exhibition material. That is a fabulous annual event and well worth a visit anyway! It is already advertised on this Forum: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?6,268349,268351

[Michael Palaeologus]

From the Peckham Rye station photos you can see how the station building has become boxed in over time. Its a great shame as the current structures make the area feel rather dindgy and threatening. The plans show a great idea to open out the front and make a public space which transform the area.

[EDOldie]

Townleygreen Wrote:

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> Maybe Court farm was where Eastlands Crescent is

> now? That was the last part of CL to be built on I

> believe - 20s or 30s?

I thought that Court Farm was effectively what became Dulwich Park and the building was roughly between the three Victorian houses and Court Lane Gardens. The other houses were all built from about 1922 onwards. I was told that Eastlands was the Victorian residence of the Turkish ambassador, hence the name Eastlands Crescent, and the road layout, when the houses were built, again in the 20's, possibly early thirties. So seperate from the farm. Court Lane was also a toll road.

I always wondered where the name 'Court' came from. Any suggestions?

[PeckhamRose]

Hi

tomorrow for about a week there is an immersive experience of a festival of Rye Lane in the 1930s. Louisa I understand you know where it will be based. It sounds fabulous. Can you enlighten us where it is? Is it where Holdron's was?

edited to add that I have just seen Louisa's thread about this on the other page. So in the meantime enjoy these photos!

[Louisa]

PR according to the clues on the Traces website, it will be held at 135a Rye Lane. Sandwiched between Khan's Bargain Ltd and the Sky Shopping City. This whole stretch of shops was once part of Holdrons Ltd, so yes PR it will be located within a small part of the old department store. Very exciting stuff.

Louisa.

[PeckhamRose]

Thanks Louisa. (They weren't clues, that address was clearly written, but I wondered if that was just saying where Holdron's was as distinct from where this whole big event will be!)

[Louisa]

According to one of their clues, "X marks the spot" and it shows a "X" marked on a map at the address I mention above. So presumably the shop which was there has closed down or it's an empty unit now? And they've used it for this department store recreation. You can buy goods from the era which would have been available at the store during the 1930s. I must admit, this sort of hands on art brings it to life for me, and as you rightly point out, I reckon many people of an older generation would love to know about this experience, unfortunately not many of those people will be using computers.

Louisa.

[PeckhamRose]

Next to Khan's apparently.