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Ah well that's that then.


I'm ready to return to the fold and give it another go in person next time I think. My period of mourning for The Old Festival is over.. take it for what it is now and (weather permitting) it still looks like a fine way to spend a weekend.

Roger Daltrey has sounded very rough for quite some time now. I doubt it's possible to sing the way he does and not suffer some serious deterioration over the years. A great band with an incredible back catalogue, but... maybe time to call it a day. Similar thing for Motorhead (except their back catalogue is mainly total garbage), Lemmy looks frail and was groaning rather than growling into the mic, it's not even funny anymore.


Was totally underwhelmed by Kanye West.. essentially karaoke with an oversized lighting rig. Admittedly the fact that I'm not a hip-hop fan means I'm automatically biased - but nevertheless I've previously been impressed with guys like Snoop Dogg or De La Soul who have toured with really good bands behind them.


More generally, I struggle to understand the place of electronic music in this sort of environment. Surely it's predominantly pre-programmed/recorded, and you probably would't hear much difference if the musicians walked off stage in the middle of the song.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Rolo Tomasi Wrote:

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> > I'm here right now. Last night we saw Hot Chip

> and

> > It was probably the best live set I've ever

> seen.

>

> Dancing in the Dark was a surprise. !

Yes. A welcome one.

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Roger Daltrey has sounded very rough for quite

> some time now. I doubt it's possible to sing the

> way he does and not suffer some serious

> deterioration over the years. A great band with an

> incredible back catalogue, but... maybe time to

> call it a day.


This is supposed to be their last tour due to 'health reasons'. They'd been touring the States for a couple of months before doing a handful of European dates including Glastonbury. I guess he would've sounded better had it not been the end of the current tranche of gigs, but his voice has definitely gone.

During a tour breather, Townsend is doing a one-off Quadrophenia gig at the Royal Albert Hall in early July, I suspect this is the type of thing he'll do in the future. Worth going to see a master craftsman at work...

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Ah well that's that then.

>

> I'm ready to return to the fold and give it

> another go in person next time I think. My period

> of mourning for The Old Festival is over.. take it

> for what it is now and (weather permitting) it

> still looks like a fine way to spend a weekend.



I think you're about right here *Bob*. Times have changed and that Festivals are generally now for middle-class blow-ins and their kids isn't neccessarily a bad thing....the fact you can have a ?5 sh1t and get a ?90 sit down meal demonstrate this (genuienely).


I liked the Sparks/FF thing, Suede and Parliament of what I saw and have seen so far.

These days it's a nicey-festival for mostly nicey-people (who can afford it obvs - though I don't think the tickets are really mad-expensive in all honesty). I'd go back and actually see some bands next time.


That said, I wouldn't trade the (hazy) memories of the final few years of utter carnage for anything though. As close to Mad Max as I think you'd ever be likely to get, with the pros and cons of that. Loved it though.


In short, I'm glad I saw the old one but I'll be preferring my kid and their friends to go to the new incarnation thanks all the same.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> These days it's a nicey-festival for mostly

> nicey-people (who can afford it obvs - though I

> don't think the tickets are really mad-expensive

> in all honesty). I'd go back and actually see some

> bands next time.

>

> That said, I wouldn't trade the (hazy) memories of

> the final few years of utter carnage for anything

> though. As close to Mad Max as I think you'd ever

> be likely to get, with the pros and cons of that.

> Loved it though.

>

> In short, I'm glad I saw the old one but I'll be

> preferring my kid and their friends to go to the

> new incarnation thanks all the same.


I think I would say the same for Football too :)

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Was totally underwhelmed by Kanye West..

> essentially karaoke with an oversized lighting

> rig. Admittedly the fact that I'm not a hip-hop

> fan means I'm automatically biased - but

> nevertheless I've previously been impressed with

> guys like Snoop Dogg or De La Soul who have toured

> with really good bands behind them.

>

> More generally, I struggle to understand the place

> of electronic music in this sort of environment.

> Surely it's predominantly pre-programmed/recorded,

> and you probably would't hear much difference if

> the musicians walked off stage in the middle of

> the song.



Agree. I did watch some Chemical Brothers last night, and the visuals must have looked pretty awesome, but call me old fashioned, I want to see a band.


I saw on facebook a photo of a huge flag waved during Kanye West's set, with a still from his wife's sex tape (with another man) on it.

???? Wrote:

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> I think you're about right here *Bob*. Times have

> changed and that Festivals are generally now for

> middle-class @#$%& and their kids isn't

> neccessarily a bad thing....



and by coincidence, the timing was perfect for "Family ????s"

steveo Wrote:

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> Do all those white middle aged tossers really like

> Kanye West?



I think they would prefer Hawkwind & Roy Harper, wishing it was 1981.

I only went once, tried Reading, preferred it so went there instead.


Reading was fab. Not so bohemian as Glastonbury, but more civilised.


Were any of you mature festival goers there in the eighties?

steveo Wrote:

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> Do all those white middle aged tossers really like

> Kanye West?



Did ANYONE actually like KW (Including KW himself)


I wanted to like him and initially thought his set/staging quite brave.


Then I reviewed my position and thought "What a cnut"

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Not quite 80's - but went to Reading once - in '90

> I think it was.

>

> Didn't like the vibe much. Very laddish / beer

> oriented. All a bit nuts-and-bolts, not enough

> weird stuff. Terrible choice of fonts..



It just shows how different the 80's were from the 90's.

The Reading vibe was good back then. It was still safe enough to leave things in tents, you were allowed to take in (supermarket) trolleys full of alcohol, the music was great but everything was more civilised.


I do kind of like the home comfort of having amenities. Made me feel better knowing that there were proper flushing toilets, showers & hot water at Reading, but the same year at Glastonbury, the water consisted of one cold tap in the middle of a bog and toilets so unusable, people were heading out to the woods with a shovel!

Wow! Just watched it. So cool.


You can understand why some don't want to move on from the dark ages.


Life was worth living back then.



ETA: I was referring to your link Quids. Wouldn't want people to miss out on seeing how wonderful it used to be.

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> *Bob* Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Not quite 80's - but went to Reading once - in

> '90

> > I think it was.

> >

> > Didn't like the vibe much. Very laddish / beer

> > oriented. All a bit nuts-and-bolts, not enough

> > weird stuff. Terrible choice of fonts..

>

>

> It just shows how different the 80's were from the

> 90's.

> The Reading vibe was good back then. It was still

> safe enough to leave things in tents, you were

> allowed to take in (supermarket) trolleys full of

> alcohol, the music was great but everything was

> more civilised.

>

> I do kind of like the home comfort of having

> amenities. Made me feel better knowing that there

> were proper flushing toilets, showers & hot water

> at Reading, but the same year at Glastonbury, the

> water consisted of one cold tap in the middle of a

> bog and toilets so unusable, people were heading

> out to the woods with a shovel!



89 and 90 were damn fine Reading years ...

http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-89.html

http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-90.html

hpsaucey Wrote:

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> 89 and 90 were damn fine Reading years ...

> http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-89.html

> http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-90.html


Some good bands on there for sure (particularly 90). But Reading was always a rock festival... somewhere between Glastonbury and Donnington, really. Very different vibe to Glastonbury (I imagine... never actually been to either).

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