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Does anyone remember this martial arts group that operarted all over London,it came to mind when i saw a picture in the paper where kids were being trained to kill brutalised abnd brainwashed.

The group i mentioned operated in a strange way, they taught the martial art but also made people go awawy in the woods for the weekend just giving them bread and water.

Also they made groups stare at candles while the mo jo master sung the praises of the masters. The masters wore black outfits with red bandanas and sashes they were investigated and found to be fraudelent,

its just that when i see certain destroyers of islam it reminds me of them.

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They're called KIXA these days. AFAIK the only London club is a ladies only class in Thornton Heath.


Personally I'm highly dubious of martial arts classes for ladies only. If you're unlucky enough to need to use self defence skills one day, there is a high chance that your attacker will be a man. If you haven't practised with a variety of oafish chaps, then all those classes (and in KIXA's case, breathing exercises...) will have left you horribly unprepared as well as possibly unrealistically overconfident.


But anyway on the brainwashing, lots of martial arts organisations out there veer toward the cultish. KIXA has had a strong rep as one of them... but based on a distinctly rubbish demo 5 years ago in Bedford (before I blew in from the Shires), if any would be wee terrorists learned this particularly p***poor art, we would not have much to fear from them!

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I remember a kateda class I went to with my karate chums on IOW on mid-eighties.

We thought the whole thing was a joke, what with squatting on your toes and the weird stances.

Then, the leader SId who's the strongest puncher in our group and we have him Dave who had scary power, the leader tool his top off and told Dave to bit him in the stomach, harder, harder, harder.

We couldn't believe the guy's resilience because Dave had broke many people with lesser power than that.

We respected their form a bit more after that, though it was at odds with Gojo Ryu - I think they said Kateda was from Iraq or something.

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KidKruger Wrote:

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> the leader took his top off and told Dave

> to hit him in the stomach, harder, harder,

> harder.


Yep, that's their main party trick. Like Houdini's similar conditioning, it's impressive. I bet Dave wasn't invited to repeat his attack to any other part of the body though! I really hope that's not the main thing they teach all their ladies' classes, although I rather fear it is?

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peckham_ryu Wrote:

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> Personally I'm highly dubious of martial arts

> classes for ladies only. If you're unlucky enough

> to need to use self defence skills one day, there

> is a high chance that your attacker will be a man.

> If you haven't practised with a variety of oafish

> chaps, then all those classes (and in KIXA's case,

> breathing exercises...) will have left you

> horribly unprepared as well as possibly

> unrealistically overconfident.


I did martial arts for a while, but stopped around 7 years ago. But the instructor was very keen on making sure the women practised a lot of kicks, "in case you're carrying shopping in both hands" (and it wasn't even a joke).


But anyway, one of the things I took away from it was that it's hard to really prepare for a real life attack unless you train so regularly that muscle memory starts to kick in. And also that the strikes which could potentially get you out of trouble quickly against a stronger opponent (eyes/throat/balls, maybe stamp to knee) are almost impossible to practise in a controlled environment.


There are better ways to keep safe than learning to fight.

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The Kateda classes then were held in a massive sports stadium in SHEPHERDSbush there were classes from all over the place.

We were there to get tested for the belts, there were mass demonstrations of men and women having bricks broken on there stomaches..

I was clandestined doing it as it was under investigatio, the martial heart itself originated in MAylasia

AND THE Philipines,the masters were mainly nigerian and my class master was called Ali and he was from Iran,

Itwas in the papers at the time and they were not a kids class they only excepted teenagers.they were very persuasive and made people do a hundred press ups if they got a move wrong, they were intimadating. Iwould not be surprised if Isis hadits roots in that organisation.All brain stealing asses.Of course its only a theory.

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See the gay violins are playing again , and are you really chic like you think you are.Seabag who are you to call people a moron, when you are a jumped up snob who thinks she is one of the elite of Dulwich, I think your drinking too much coffee and move from your flat overlooking the park .

Try harder save harder work harder and you might make it in the village, windbag.

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Dont tell me your Chick from the pub.oh dear the one who has ruined what was a perfectly good pub once, until you wanted to lord it over everyone with your opions on authors etc,etc.

If you were that interested in books why didnt you lot of opinionated wanna be,s in you boring pub and grub

and fake library fight for the libraries not to be shut,


You could ,instead of guffing of with your jumped up snooty friends(your audience) all get really useful and make audio books for the blind.

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