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These days when your in entertainment, darling, you have to be 'really' good-looking just be considered passable.


This is, of course, in contrast to real life where it seems you only need, say, a relatively level mouth and eyes which aren't crossed in order to consider yourself God's Gift.


How many times have I sat behind distressingly repugnant boys on buses, hearing them declare eg Lily Allen to be 'ugly'. I I mean, have you looked in the mirror lately, mate?

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> Lilly Allen's not nice, she's butters as my 18 and

> 16 year old boys would say. And I most certainly

> wouldn't, and nor would my sons!!



That made me chuckle, we used to say butters when I was in secondary school (early/mid 90s), nice to hear it's still being used!

Butters is a reference to the Johnny Rotten Country Life butter advert.

Even Johnny's best friends wouldn't describe him as a handsome chap.

And also is it just me or does he emphasise the first syllable of the butter's title?

That's our Johnny, still bringing the system down pound by pound.

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> Butters has got sod all to do with Mr Lydon (a top

> gooner) it means butt ugly, hence butters.


Sorry to contradict you AR, but I have it on the best authority from my homies that the Rotten connection is the one that is true.

Poor Lily, I think she's mighty purty and she has the shiniest hair.


My vote goes to Jarvis Cocker. Nine and a half stone wet through of pure filth.


But if I had to pick a pretty boy, I'm ashamed to say that Lee Meade (who I believe has now brought out an album and is officially therefore a pop star) made me come over all funny when I took my niece to see Joseph. More men should wear loin cloths.

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Butters has got sod all to do with Mr Lydon (a

> top

> > gooner) it means butt ugly, hence butters.

>

> Sorry to contradict you AR, but I have it on the

> best authority from my homies that the Rotten

> connection is the one that is true.


Sorry to contradict you, but that saying was around long before the bug eyed Mr Lydon sold his soul to country life

I think she has dangerous looking eyes like her Dad; eyes like Jean Reno and Eddie Izzard. Difficult to explain really. Still, I used to babysit her you know. But only when she was a baby. Maybe that should have gone in the "Things you didn't know about forumites" topic. Oh well, it's out there now.
She got her record deals through hard work and word of MySpace. No, seriously. But I bet her Mum (film producer Alison Owen who produced Elizabeth and loads of others) and Dad Keith had something to do with it. Far too many famous kids of famous parents around at the moment!

Moos Wrote:

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I always

> considered Lily Allen to be a bit of a Plain Jane

> and assumed she got her record deal because of her

> dad


Looks-wise, I think she makes a pretty good fist of what she's got.


Music wise, I think someone else makes a pretty good fist of what they get from her.


You're right about Dad though.

I guess it is unfair to call her plain actually - if I saw her in the street I'm sure I'd think she was pretty, it's just that Famousland has a higher set of standards.


Don't think her music's very interesting though and her continual presence in the papers (most recently complaining about her press coverage...hmm..) is a bit tedious. Perhaps I should just duck out of this thread!

Totally with you on Peaches Geldof, but I think Lily Allen has had some great tunes. I do think however, that it can't of hurt her having 2 parents in the business!


I don't mind Jack or Kelly Osbourne, but have huge respect for Aimee Osbourne, who wanted nothing to do with The Osbournes TV show, and seems to want to do things on her own.

Cassius Wrote:

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> I liked Jim Morrison but realise he's a bit of a

> porker himself - or was - as I guess there is

> little in the way of flesh hanging off those old

> bones now!


Jim Morrison - now there's someone who's even less interesting than Lily Allen.

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