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El Presidente Wrote:

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> this pub is in a terrible location and will always

> fail



Eh? Opposite the station, near Sainsbury's and the football ground, a minute away from Goose Green roundabout and the busy end of Lordship Lane?


It was our favourite place for weekend lunches in the very brief period when it had a great chef, good managers and a well kept selection of ales.

Sue Wrote:

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> El Presidente Wrote:

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> -----

> > this pub is in a terrible location and will

> always

> > fail

>

>

> Eh? Opposite the station, near Sainsbury's and the

> football ground, a minute away from Goose Green

> roundabout and the busy end of Lordship Lane?

>

> It was our favourite place for weekend lunches in

> the very brief period when it had a great chef,

> good managers and a well kept selection of ales.


Not everyone coming out of the station is heading for the pub and those that do will have their own

favourite watering hole where they meet their mates.


Many/most people shopping at Sainsbury's will be in their car so wont be drinking and those on foot

will probably want to get their food home and get it in the fridge/freezer.


Dulwich Hamlet FC has a good cheap bar that satisfies most football drinkers...

A few DHFC drinkers use the EDF


and for most ED residents they would have to pass 2-3 other pubs to get there..


So not the best location at all.


DulwichFox

DHFC Has a good cheap bar which can't handle the numbers, and most people leave straight after the match to head for a pub, often to watch the 5:30 kick of on telly. This is why I think this could take advantage of that.


If I end up in the EDT it's because there's no other option. If this offers another option I shall certainly try it.

And foxy, I say this as a forum friend. If you ever wonder why people say you're negative / glass half empty, just read your post below.


DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > El Presidente Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > this pub is in a terrible location and will

> > always

> > > fail

> >

> >

> > Eh? Opposite the station, near Sainsbury's and

> the

> > football ground, a minute away from Goose Green

> > roundabout and the busy end of Lordship Lane?

> >

> > It was our favourite place for weekend lunches

> in

> > the very brief period when it had a great chef,

> > good managers and a well kept selection of

> ales.

>

> Not everyone coming out of the station is heading

> for the pub and those that do will have their own

> favourite watering hole where they meet their

> mates.

>

> Many/most people shopping at Sainsbury's will be

> in their car so wont be drinking and those on

> foot

> will probably want to get their food home and get

> it in the fridge/freezer.

>

> Dulwich Hamlet FC has a good cheap bar that

> satisfies most football drinkers...

> A few DHFC drinkers use the EDF

>

> and for most ED residents they would have to pass

> 2-3 other pubs to get there..

>

> So not the best location at all.

>

> DulwichFox

Sue Wrote:

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> Fox.

>

> You were very wrong about The Ivy House, which you

> said would fail and which has gone from strength

> to strength.

>

> If The Cherry Tree has good food and a decent

> range of drinks then I think you will be wrong

> about that too.

>

> Just saying ....


Is the Ivy House making a profit then?

I did not say That The Cherry Tree will fail. The argument was its location.


.. But the place will not thrive because it is near Sainbury's. (People in cars)


.. and as most trade is after 21.00 (especially at weekends) there will be little trade from the station.


.. and Dulwich Hamlet only play at home once a fortnight during the Football Season so that ain't going

to make it pay.


It will only be successful on its own merits.


So not Negative.. Just realistic.


DulwichFox

Sue Wrote:

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> Roundabout Wrote:

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> > Is the Ivy House making a profit then?

>

>

> At the time of the last shareholders' meeting it

> was more than meeting its targets.


Spoken like a true politician ;)

> El Presidente Wrote:

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> > this pub is in a terrible location and will

> always

> > fail


It's probably in one of the best locations in the area


Sue Wrote:

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> It was our favourite place for weekend lunches in

> the very brief period when it had a great chef,

> good managers and a well kept selection of ales.


Agreed. And, if it's run correctly with its customers in mind - and with motivated and contented staff- it has massive potential.

Roundabout Wrote:

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> Is meeting its target ? the same as making a

> profit?



It depends what you mean, I guess. It has only been a community-owned pub a short time, and so far there has only been one shareholders' meeting.


You can read all about it here:


http://www.ivyhousenunhead.com/index.php


I'm proud to be a shareholder. It's a great pub.

Totally agree. And much of the hullabaloo about buggies / kids / swearing / e-cigs etc would be solved if pubs of a certain size went back to separate bars. If there's one thing my father taught me it was by all means swear in the bar but not in the lounge...

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Not quite 100 years..

>

> ..but


Mr Negative and our Wikipedia correspondent strikes again. It is over 100 years. I used to have a photograph of it taken in 1911 and it had certainly been going for a while then. It had Walter. W Collison above the door. Mr Collison also owned The Magdala around the same time and is my mate's grandfather or great grand father.


Here's the picture.


http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag237/jahlushhead/Cherry%20Tree_zpsmqyxhkg3.png

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