flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have several moans about the UK police, supposedly one of the best in the world"supposedly" that was my impression when I moved to the UK1-had 2 attempted vehicle break ins, brilliant conclusions, reported it, then they close it2-Had finger prints taken from a crime scene once in a related robbery - open and closed again3-in my latest case, a nuisance/malicious call, they will try to retrieve the number, but they say that due to data protection issues, they can only attempt the common ground in the 6 years Ive been in the UK is that not one case was helped solved, so my effectivity rating for them is a fat zero, Nil, zilch , kaput, I feel for the UK Public as I believe they deserve better, Police are paid well, only for the public shortchanged, that is my strong opinion Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have several moans about the UK police, supposedly one of the best in the world"supposedly" that was my impression when I moved to the UK1-had 2 attempted vehicle break ins, brilliant conclusions, reported it, then they close it2-Had finger prints taken from a crime scene once in a related robbery - open and closed again3-in my latest case, a nuisance/malicious call, they will try to retrieve the number, but they say that due to data protection issues, they can only attempt the common ground in the 6 years Ive been in the UK is that not one case was helped solved, so my effectivity rating for them is a fat zero, Nil, zilch , kaput, I feel for the UK Public as I believe they deserve better, Police are paid well, only for the public shortchanged, that is my strong opinion Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 also I feel for the no guns policy, they have stab vests, stab vests! Anyone thought of the neck as a target? coupled with the corruption of the Home Secretary I do not know where this is all goin....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 also I feel for the no guns policy, they have stab vests, stab vests! Anyone thought of the neck as a target? coupled with the corruption of the Home Secretary I do not know where this is all goin....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 It often seems that they are there to control the general populace not protect the individual from crime. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 It often seems that they are there to control the general populace not protect the individual from crime. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenk Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Try dealing with Spanish / US / Italian policeI'd rather our ineffectual blunderers than what they have. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenk Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Try dealing with Spanish / US / Italian policeI'd rather our ineffectual blunderers than what they have. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Brendan,seems so, also I cannot believe they lie, the Menezes case specially now, shocking with the G20 abuses and heavy handedness Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Brendan,seems so, also I cannot believe they lie, the Menezes case specially now, shocking with the G20 abuses and heavy handedness Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hi Lenk, please clarify the statement on the US police? Any issues with them? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hi Lenk, please clarify the statement on the US police? Any issues with them? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 It is so confusing how to deal with and think about the police as an organisation.I agree with Brendan about the control aspect.And yet when I attend Police Ward Panels, they report their problems openly as to how to deal with crime and the underfunding and so on. In a way 'it' (the institution) is a bit like the NHS, in that there are individuals in the NHS who really should notbe allowed near sick people, and far too many managers in both outfits. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 It is so confusing how to deal with and think about the police as an organisation.I agree with Brendan about the control aspect.And yet when I attend Police Ward Panels, they report their problems openly as to how to deal with crime and the underfunding and so on. In a way 'it' (the institution) is a bit like the NHS, in that there are individuals in the NHS who really should notbe allowed near sick people, and far too many managers in both outfits. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Amen to that Peckham rose, frustrating for so many people I think in this country Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Amen to that Peckham rose, frustrating for so many people I think in this country Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onvisa Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 You can always turn this around;ieYou go do their job see how effective you are within the confines of how they have to work.....Its easy to whinge about the police but how many times have you been raped, murdered or assaulted with a deadly weapon?I think the police do a great job and they need more praise for the amazing job they do in the community.Not people whining about how they didn't mount a full scale 'anti malicious phone call war' because someone got a heavy breather.They have better things to do. Like catch murderers and try to stem the drug trade! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onvisa Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 You can always turn this around;ieYou go do their job see how effective you are within the confines of how they have to work.....Its easy to whinge about the police but how many times have you been raped, murdered or assaulted with a deadly weapon?I think the police do a great job and they need more praise for the amazing job they do in the community.Not people whining about how they didn't mount a full scale 'anti malicious phone call war' because someone got a heavy breather.They have better things to do. Like catch murderers and try to stem the drug trade! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I agree that they are very engaging, a lot more so than some other countries perhaps, (I?ve heard the Italian cops a right hardarses) But dialogue is one thing them actually doing something about specific crimes is another. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I agree that they are very engaging, a lot more so than some other countries perhaps, (I?ve heard the Italian cops a right hardarses) But dialogue is one thing them actually doing something about specific crimes is another. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have found the Police pretty good in Peckham.They followed up on a malicious call my daughter received recently and put the oik into touch. This was related to a punch she had received from another lad, which was taken very seriously; she gave video evidence and we are waiting for this to come to trial.I've only reported two serious incidents that I witnessed and the police responded immediately.Also, my far from perfect but lovely daughter has been on the other side of the police's attention (!) and they dealt with it very effectively, with no complaints from me.I think they do a pretty thankless, sometimes dangerous job fairly well. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have found the Police pretty good in Peckham.They followed up on a malicious call my daughter received recently and put the oik into touch. This was related to a punch she had received from another lad, which was taken very seriously; she gave video evidence and we are waiting for this to come to trial.I've only reported two serious incidents that I witnessed and the police responded immediately.Also, my far from perfect but lovely daughter has been on the other side of the police's attention (!) and they dealt with it very effectively, with no complaints from me.I think they do a pretty thankless, sometimes dangerous job fairly well. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy two times Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The Police response to crime is proportionate. You have stated 3 incidents which you have reported. Whilst each deserves thorough investigation unfortunately Police manpower issues mean that some crimes will be higher priority. I don't understand some of the other points you have made such as the one about stabvests? It sounds like that gripe is on behalf of the Police. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy two times Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The Police response to crime is proportionate. You have stated 3 incidents which you have reported. Whilst each deserves thorough investigation unfortunately Police manpower issues mean that some crimes will be higher priority. I don't understand some of the other points you have made such as the one about stabvests? It sounds like that gripe is on behalf of the Police. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipbrit Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 onvisa"not people whining about how they didn't mount a full scale 'anti malicious phone call war' because someone got a heavy breather. "I would take the merits of any case if I were you for your info it was not heavy breathing but someone threatening my life , you would be upset as well, well in this case its not you so why would you care ay?Thats why its called opinions Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6017-uk-police-ineffective-opinions-please/#findComment-193143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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