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Pickle Wrote:

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> rahrahrah Wrote:

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> > I hate myself for having taken the bait. Last

> post

> > on this thread.

>

> Ha, me too, but I was bored.


East Dulwich is a very easy place to get bored in / with..


It's exactly what I said.


'The only community would seem to be The EDF.

For some this virtual world is their life line. '


Foxy

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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>

> > 'The only community would seem to be The EDF.

> > For some this virtual world is their life

> line.

> > '

> >

> > Foxy

>

>

> My God, you're a gloomy bastard. A positively

> dystopian Orwellian view you seem to have.


Thank you for the compliment. It's the prerogative of the genius in me that surfaces from time to time. :)

I'm usually quiet modest, shy and retiring.



Foxy

Otta Wrote:

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> Well for what it's worth I think Louisa is spot

> on. This isn't her talking about East Dulwich,

> this is London and if you show her thread to any

> long standing Soho resident I think they'd say

> it's bang on.



Yes but they would also have said it when the PR types in waxed Doc Martins and black 501s moved in to Soho 30 years ago.


It was said in Borough (re-branded as Bankside) before the emergence of Borough 'Farmer's' Market some 20 years back,


Said when they redeveloped the old dock warehouses into yuppie lego-apartments 30 years ago,


Going further back - it was said when the old slums were knocked down and people were moved to New Towns in the 1960s-70s.

I'd like to think if I ever found myself with so little good to say about the area I lived.. SE22, London, wherever - I'd have the cojones to stop carping on about it and find somewhere else to live that suited me better. The world is quite a large place, with experiences to suit all, if you can be arsed.

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> steveo Wrote:

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> > It's not just London

> >

> >

> http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectato

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> >

> r-life-life/9477362/how-the-big-apple-lost-its-bit

>

> > e/

>

> I can't help wondering if this isn't just old

> people saying 'it's not as good as it was in my

> day'. Scenes move on, fashions and areas change.

> I'm sure if you're a young thing living in New

> York, it's just as full of danger, wonder and

> excitement as that journo remembers it being 'back

> in the day', although the 'hip' places won't be

> the same ones he visited, nor the neighbourhoods.



When it comes to nightlife with loud music (live or not), this really is happening in cities across the world. It's not just about where people can afford to live, it's also about developers building their souless blocks everywhere, and clubs and venues being closed down.

maxxi Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Well for what it's worth I think Louisa is spot

> > on. This isn't her talking about East Dulwich,

> > this is London and if you show her thread to

> any

> > long standing Soho resident I think they'd say

> > it's bang on.

>

>

> Yes but they would also have said it when the PR

> types in waxed Doc Martins and black 501s moved in

> to Soho 30 years ago.

>

> It was said in Borough (re-branded as Bankside)

> before the emergence of Borough 'Farmer's' Market

> some 20 years back,

>

> Said when they redeveloped the old dock warehouses

> into yuppie lego-apartments 30 years ago,

>

> Going further back - it was said when the old

> slums were knocked down and people were moved to

> New Towns in the 1960s-70s.



Yeah you're totally right, I've never argued that places don't change constantly. A lot of my yoof was around New Cross / Deptford, and those places have changed a lot since then.


But, when long standing places disappear and are replaced by dull corporate nightmares, it does get a bit miserable.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> I'd like to think if I ever found myself with so

> little good to say about the area I lived.. SE22,

> London, wherever - I'd have the cojones to stop

> carping on about it and find somewhere else to

> live that suited me better. The world is quite a

> large place, with experiences to suit all, if you

> can be arsed.


I've worked hard for 40 odd years to buy my home.. Do you really think I'm going to walk

away from where I have lived for my whole life to satisfy the likes of yourself.


No way.. Star - Bob - Star. I'm going nowhere.


DF

'I've worked hard for forty years to buy my home in a place I don't really want to live any more. And I intend to stay here and be a total misery about it until the day I die'


It's not 'to satisfy the likes of myself', you plum! YOU'RE the one who's dissatisfied!



Jesus wept.

I just googled "live music suffers at the hands of gentrification" and there are articles about Sydney, SanFrancisco, New Yprk, Austin and many more.


Young people will (probably) always find a place for music and fun and art. I just think that these places are going to be looking outwards rather than in to the centres of cities.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> 'I've worked hard for forty years to buy my home

in a place I don't really want to live any more.

> And I intend to stay here and be a total misery

> about it until the day I die'

>

> It's not 'to satisfy the likes of myself', you

> plum! YOU'RE the one who's dissatisfied!

>

>

> Jesus wept.


When have I ever said I don't want to live here anymore.. I've never said that.

I could easily buy a place outright elsewhere and rent out my current gaff for ?2,000 + per month.


I could travel the world. .. or live abroad. but I CHOOSE to live where I live.


Hope that clears things up.


DF

GREAT - so now you've made your bed and 'chosen' the place where you live (having weighed up the options you have, of which you have many) - and decided that this, here, is the place where you want to live, perhaps you could try not to be such a bloody misery about it.

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