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Come on you guys, be serious and think consructively. Cutting off Nunhead doesn't need an expensive and time consuming barracade (wall) to keep the natives of scumhead out of sight. For an effective and speedier means of population control all we need to do (Louisa may have something to say about this) is to introduce a strain of the Ebola virus into the microwave meal section at Iceland. Jobs a good un.

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I would insist

> on Lewisham too (I know where you live)


Well I knew the tame element of this thread wouldn't last long DM but if you want to be like that then fine!


How about we take all of the Rahs and Sloaneranger wannabes from Dulwich Village and their chinless offspring and bulldoze their idylic trophy of success and replace it with a concrete 1960's era council estate and move them back in with types like Louisa who'll do their upmost to remind them of the good old days and how the slumymummy elitist Nero slurping haridans turned the area's 'character' from the image of hardworking 'proper people' to the cast of Dallas.


Take care DM

Who's Ray Crebs?


If you mean Ray krebbs (don't let yourself down with such bad grammar DM as it's most un-ladylike) then I'm afraid you're far off the beaten track as usual.


Think of yourself as an older version of Fizz Charlson and me as a more dapper version of Marcus Tandy from the BBC's ill fated early nineties flop Eldorado.

Hmmm. Good point. No, it doesn't.


However, a quick bit of Pythagoras tells me that in order for 0.78 miles straight line turn into 1 mile with the incline, then the end of the road would need to be 0.63 miles (around 3,350 feet) higher than the start.


That would give us an incline of around 40 degrees.


Given earlier evidence that coasting with the car out of gear at 30 mph only retains the existing speed, then I reckon it's not quite that steep. ;-)


It kinda rings true, as even Hampstead Heath is only 440ft above sea level, so the church would need to be almost ten times higher than that. A veritable cliff.


That's not to say that it isn't. Indeed altitude sickness may have contributed to some of the road's reputation.

Feels like it when you cycle up it though...:'(


It would be interesting to know what the height above sea level was, especially when you consider you can only see the top of Canary Wharf which is about 800ft high...I did try the web to see if I could get hold of an OS map showing benchmarks for levels, but they all seem to charge, and then I remembered there's more important things in life!..:-$

Google Earth suggests that the Clockhouse end of Barry Road has an elevation of 24m (78 feet), and the church end has an elevation of 49m (160 feet).


I'm not sure exactly how accurate these measurements are.


However, if this is right, then in addition to the 82 feet rise the incline has made the road 9.7 inches longer.


F*cking outrageous!

For a 75 kilo man on a 15 kilo bike that would be 22,000 joules burnt up in rising up through the elevation (in addition of course to the normal energy burnt up on an equivalent level road).


Since most of us are more familiar with calories (4.2 joules), that's 5,255 calories.


However, in food terms we actually talk about kilocalories, even though we call them calories. So think of it as 5.25 calories exercise - approximately the amount of calories contained in two seedless grapes.

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