Loz Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Not very enlightening, really. Farage and Sturgeon seem to be performing the best, with the Plaid Cymru women looking like she's about to fall asleep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Disagree - if I were to vote for anyone right now it'd be for Plaid Cymru. Clegg seems to have set his cap at the Tories (again) early doors, and Cameron is getting an easy ride as the debate is dissipated by so many minor voices sounding off. He's probably delighted. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It's why he didn't want to go head to head with Miliband. One thing that struck me about the Paxman interview was the squirming body language when Paxman pushed him on food banks and anything else he found difficult.I think here Cameron comes accross as a broken record, and lacks any charisma whatsoever (the only good news for him is that he's not the only one). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 True - it is pretty much a blandathon.Also wondering if this is the Loose Women studio (although the set-up and music is very much "Going For Gold") and they've left the audience protocols and cues in place which would explain the bursts of applause before and after breaks (which seem very weird in this context).Or is it more Pavlovian? Do some people (the kind who would willingly be in a tv studio audience for... anything) on hearing the words "We'll be back after this break" applaud like demented sea lions without even being aware of it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm getting really irked on the housing debate. Not one of those politicians has as yet put home building as a priority over help to buy, rent to buy and all the other bonkers schemes they dream up to keep the market inflated. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Uh oh...cameron mentioned the 100 business leaders. Cue david Carnell :D Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 And now it's over...what a disappointment that was! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Had to laugh at Green Natalie having to read her closing statement. Wasn't going to risk forgetting her lines twice. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Blah Blah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'm getting really irked on the housing debate. Not one of those politicians has as yet put home> building as a priority over help to buy, rent to buy and all the other bonkers schemes they dream> up to keep the market inflated.Well, Farage did.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think Farage did well to be honest. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 He (Farridge) always comes across well in shit like this because it's so shallow. Milliband missed a trick by just trying to say the words Prime Minister a lot in the hope people would associate him with the post - I think he got that from an old Shredded Wheat campaign.Green person was stupid, Scots extremist was bitter, Clegg was begging for "same again please", Cameron hid and yep - I'd still vote Plaid Cymru. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 lol I might too after that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquarius moon Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm still watching it now.I don't listen when Cameron & Clegg open their mouths because they talk so much crap. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladida Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The Welsh bird's quite tidy though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Farage was an offensive and oafish arsehole. Sturgeon did well. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Sturgeon and Farage played the game the best. Farage especially knows how to make punchline points very quickly and that was really effective given the totally random format. Sturgeon was also quite concise and got good points over.Clegg had a curious line to tread, having to back the government, yet separate himself from it. And didn't do too bad a job. But not too memorable, either.Miliband really didn't do well with the format. Failed to really land any blows on Cameron - and got rather shown up by Sturgeon in particular. I think the same person who taught Gordon Brown to smile (shudder) taught Ed to look weirdly into the camera.Cameron didn't have a great night, as expected, but landed a great punch on Miliband over zero-hours contracts. But generally seemed to be content with damage limitation.Still thought Plaid Cymru lady looked asleep (and ladida needs his eyesight checked!). Made a few decent points, but sounded the least sure in what she was saying.Green Natalie had a bit of a shocker. All over the shop. She is no Caroline Lucas (who would have been very good in this format). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I thought Farage made a lot of sense in the answers he gave and i for one was impressed.The scots rep kept guiet on the subject of student fees and free prescriptions, no wonder she could crow about her health care. As for Nick cleg, didnt mention how he vetoed cancer drugs for some patients. David Cameron, looked non plussed when guestioned about immigration and europe. The green party woman was boring, the plaid cuymbri needed go faster batteries. Dave Milliband zoomed in on the camera just like gromet.it was not a good debate at all. Too in favour of the boring three,.I predict the people will realise any goverment voted in will only be a small muted branch of the mighty german gaelic dictatorship. I,mwith NIGEL FARAGE, all the way, Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 What are UKIPs policies (apart from leaving Europe) Tarot? Do you even know?And btw, Farage is married to a German! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I thought miliband sounded particularly nasal, even for him. he must sound like a trombone when he has a cold. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Tarot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Dave Milliband zoomed in on the> camera just like grometSadly not :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-835999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 u.k.i.p is agenuine political party whose title means they want to leave the e.u.as a lot of people do.to keep waving the old racist bigot card is ignorant, it wont stop people voting the days of politacal correctness are done .The line must be drawn and common sense will prevailFarage islikened to John the Baptist,the voice in the wilderness.The e.u doesnt work who doth the bell toll for, the e.u. Echo from my past posts, We are full up. Now true. OLD people turfed out of houses for larger familes Now true.bedroom tax to make people move by furitive blackmail.Now true. INFRASTRUCTURE COLLAPSING all over now true. Ghetto buildigs in Green east dulwich on every bit of space, Gardens for instance. Property value will plummet till someone stops thesoutwark planning department.racism bigots so outmoded when overcrowding and self rule are the most important issues thing to fight for. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-836026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I would say Sturgeon and the SNP are now legitimized to some extent in England & WalesThe Tories seem to have helped that happen.Not sure where that will lead - most likely to a rainbow coalition if Cameron fails to get a majority. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-836032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 holloway Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I thought miliband sounded particularly nasal,> even for him. he must sound like a trombone when> he has a cold.Hahahaha...he was, super nasal. That and the strange staring into camera was a bit odd. You knew that he had had Leadership training all week! His bits just made me laugh because he got it so horribly wrong. Cringey Mili! I have no clue about anything he said because I couldn't get past the weird behaviour. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-836036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 > Not sure where that will lead - most likely to a rainbow coalition if Cameron fails to get> a majority.SNP will not go into formal coalition. They would support Labour when they feel like it, which would make Miliband's premiership almost impossible and we'll be back at the polls within a year. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-836040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 when it is not possible to criticize what someone says then why not criticize how they say it or how they look. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/56181-leaders-debate/#findComment-836054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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