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What's depressing Blah Blah? Turnout is good, the people spoke, this is their decision. The smug faces of the Labour hierarchy earlier tonight discounting the exit poll "because it wasnt what we were experiencing on the ground" - ermm more like, "wasn't the result we wanted". Embarrassment all round.


Louisa.

Results for Cam&Peck and Dulwich&WN: swings to Labour and Greens - latter was third in Cam&Peck.


Camb&Peck


Labour

63.3% share of the total vote

+4.1% change in share of the votes


Conservative

13.2% share of the total vote

+0.1% change in share of the votes


Green Party

10.1% share of the total vote

+7.1% change in share of the votes


Liberal Democrat

5.0% share of the total vote

-17.4% change in share of the votes


UKIP

4.7% share of the total vote

+4.7% change in share of the votes



Dulwich & WNorwood


Labour

54.1% share of the total vote

+7.5% change in share of the votes


Conservative

22.7% share of the total vote

+0.5% change in share of the votes


Liberal Democrat

9.8% share of the total vote

-17.3% change in share of the votes


Green Party

9.4% share of the total vote

+6.8% change in share of the votes


UKIP

3.1% share of the total vote

+1.7% change in share of the votes

As well as implications of SNP vote, one issue to note is SNP's position on an EU in-out referendum. Their manifesto position is that all of the 4 nations of the UK have to individually vote to come out of the EU before the UK as a whole can be withdrawn - in other words no country can be taken out of the EU unwillingly. Likely to remain a critical issue for SNP.


Frankly this may end up being one of the few factors that can put a break on things - given the abysmal tabloid level of debate on Europe in the national media (and among former Tory backbench).

Dulwich & WNorwood

Liberal Democrat

9.8% share of the total vote

-17.3% change in share of the votes


A shame for James Barber. I wasn't a fan of his early on. Seemed to be too much politicking from him on the East Dulwich forum. But of late, to me, he has shown himself to be a man of genuine conviction and someone who has done a lot of good in the local community.

grabot Wrote:

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> A shame for James Barber. I wasn't a fan of his

> early on. Seemed to be too much politicking from

> him on the East Dulwich forum. But of late, to

> me, he has shown himself to be a man of genuine

> conviction and someone who has done a lot of good

> in the local community.



Agree with this completely.

"I was naive and just hadn't realised how much of the Labour vote would go to UKIP."


That had a minimal effect on the overall result though - UKIP took a lot of votes from Labour in safe Labour seats, but didn't come close to winning any of them.


The story of the election, whilst surprising in light of the polling, is pretty clear. The Lib Dems got wiped out but this benefited the Tories as much as Labour, and Labour got wiped out in Scotland without managing to make any real impact on English Tory seats. I haven't seen a single seat that Labour won on a big swing from the Tories, and that pretty much says it all.

If the Labour Party has half a brain between them, they will put Andy Burnham in place sooner rather than later. Yet another campaign I predicted from the very beginning. Not that I'm being smug about it, it pains me to be spot on. But I've seen enough of these campaigns to know that the tories always outperform polls, and the Labour Party should have had a clear 5/6 lead throughout the campaign. I do agree though about the security of a majority this brings, no bargaining at all. The Ulster Unionists gain 2 seats (adding to tory support) and the DUP will more than likely make an informal vote by vote deal at least with the tories to bolster up that majority.


Louisa.

"And 1.5m Scots have 56 seats, whilst 3.5m UKIP voters have 1. Now I don't want more UKIP Seats, but if you want a democracy then that has to change."


...and 2.5 million Lib Dems have 8 seats. There's always been a valid argument in favour of some sort of PR based voting system, and there's certainly nothing uniquely beneficial about FPTP, but you have to wonder whether UKIP would have got as many votes if there was any real expectation that they would translate into seats. It is significant that they couldn't win a single seat from either the Tories or Labour, nor hold onto Rochester.

Otta Wrote:

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> I was naive and just hadn't realised how much of

> the Labour vote would go to UKIP. Assumed it would

> all come from Tory voters because, well you know,

> they're all @#$%&.



I suppose now you just going to have to accept that its labour voters than are the cunts! 😁

The full Dulwich and West Norwood results can be seen at http://moderngov.lambeth.gov.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=29&V=1&RPID=26676954 but not yet on the Southwark website.


Greenwich, Haringey, Lambeth, Merton, Richmond, Wandsworth, Croydon, Tower Hamlets, Camden, Lewisham, ... all have the full results for their constituencies on their websites.

DaveR Wrote:

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> "I was naive and just hadn't realised how much of

> the Labour vote would go to UKIP."

>

> That had a minimal effect on the overall result

> though - UKIP took a lot of votes from Labour in

> safe Labour seats, but didn't come close to

> winning any of them.

>


Try telling that to Ed Balls - UKIP has let tories win or especially hold plenty of marginals..that's the point


PS 400 :)

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