Its Not Just Smokers

[Mikecg]

It's not just Smokers they are targeting drinkers now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7906355.stm

[KalamityKel]

And fat people... don't forget that

[Mikecg]

That's me f*cked then!

A coleague of mine once commented when we were on a firms do a few years ago "You drink like a fish and smoke like a trooper" my response to his amazing perseption of me was "Yes and I go with women as well".

I wish I had the drive to run round Dulwich park every morning but I just cant do it.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Who is this "they" you speak of Mike?

And there is no "now" about this - spurious stories about drinking have been published on a weekly basis for yeeeears now

This guy

regularly demolishes these stories given their spurious origins. Well worth a read.

But the smoking ban has made lives endlessly more pleasant for people who didn't used to have a choice - let's not bracket them together needlessly

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Mikecg Wrote:

I wish I had the drive to run round Dulwich park every morning but I just cant do it.

Can't you compromise and drive round Dulwich Park...:))

[SeanMacGabhann]

Oops - meant to quote that bit too. I have tried a couple of times to do this but like you... ain't going to happen. I enjoy the first bit but when I have to stop to pick up my lung from the ground I find it really hard to get restarted. meanwhile other people are lapping me. then I go home feeling shamed. It's not pretty

[Mikecg]

You know Sean, the smoking ban has improved the environment in public places agreed, the they are Cancer Research Scientists?. One minute your reading, a glass of wine per day is good for you the next we are all doomed.

[SeanMacGabhann]

I hear you - but it's less scary when you realise, unlike the long, evidence-based, accumulation over years thing on smoking, these drinks stories are just what the papers are selectively publishing to splash on a front page

Next week the papers will be back to 2 glasses of wine a day helps pregnant women...

[dulwichmum]

Oh Sean darling. You are infinitely sensible (swoon).

[SeanMacGabhann]

Aw gee shucks DM, don't get me started. Apparently I have an inner-Iain Paisley waiting to come out you know!

Wheras I am just waiting for Iain Paisley to come out

[HonaloochieB]

And Guiness, don't forget Guiness for women in pod.

Full of iron you know.

[Mikecg]

I do know that smoking isn't the greatest thing to do and really should be banned, but the gov't bean counters like the revenue it generates so that won't happen. I've heard things like Potatoes and Bread can cause cancer, living in London causes cancer and all those fumes from buses cant be good.

[SeanMacGabhann]

"hearing things" isn't really good enough tho, is it? More headline splashes and selected medical papers based on flimsy research.

Smoking shouldn't be banned anyway - if people want to without bothering others why shouldn't they. And again with the bean counters thing - I'm sure the costs to the NHS wipe out plenty of that "profit"

And why choose fumes from buses and not all the cars with one person in them?

[Brendan]

Mike I refer you to a piece of research I did a few days ago.

My extrapolations have as much logical basis as the Beeb?s.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,227495

[Mikecg]

I'm not saying some drunk guy down the pub told me, It was more than likely a bbc news story and at least they took the lead out of petrol.

[Mikecg]

Yours is more realistc Brendan.

[SeanMacGabhann]

sorry mike - i wasn't trying to suggest it was hearing from a mate. I would say ALL of the main news sources (broadsheet and tabloids papers, mainstream TV news, including C4 news) are all guilty of splashing these stories

All I can recommend is reading the badscience website - or better, buying his book - it's fantastic

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Wow, Sean, I didn't know Ian Paisley was homosexual - why haven't we been told before?

[HonaloochieB]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Mike I refer you to a piece of research I did a

> few days ago.

>

> My extrapolations have as much logical basis as

> the Beeb?s.

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?2

> 0,227495

And yours were popular Brendan.

[SeanMacGabhann]

I'm not saying he IS - but he sure seems to be holding something in...

[Cassius]

In my lifetime I've been told that eggs are good for you, then eggs are bad for you and now eggs are good for you again. For eggs read wine, guiness, coffee, tea, this, that and finally the other.

As long as I look and feel good I am going to ignore all these reports - in fact I would say the only really bad thing for you are miserable po-faced gits on tv telling you how to lead your life - looking like they've never had any fun in their entire lives themselves. Well a pox on them all I say.

[PeckhamRose]

Joe Jackson - Cancer from "Night and Day"

Play No. 7 (Cancer)

[RosieH]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> This guy

>

> regularly demolishes these stories given their

> spurious origins. Well worth a read.

Sean, I love you even more - you are second in my affections only to the very fabulous, funny, angry and not-unhandsome Ben Goldacre.

Everyone should be prescribed a weekly dose of Goldacre and stop fretting about broccoli giving them cancer or the perfect equation for a sexy Marilyn Monroe wiggle when they walk (merci a Veet I think). We're all going to die of something at some point. I fully intend to do so having eaten and drunk much deliciousnes en route.

[Cassius]

The report gives the frightening statistic of increasing your chance of getting throat cancer BY 44%, but another site says that approximately 375 women a year are diagnosed in this country with throat cancer................. you do the maths.

[SteveT]

I guess that means the other quarter of a million go undiagnosed.....