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fazer71

fazer71

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KrackersMaracas Wrote:

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> fazer71 Wrote:

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> > I had a thought maybe aircraft noise deniers

> and

> > holocaust deniers have brains wired in the same

> > way or maybe aircraft noise deniers are simply

> > deaf?

> >

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> Seriously? We are comparing people who do not have

> a problem with aircraft noise where they live to

> those that deny the genocide of between 5 and 6

> million people? What a thoroughly odious comment

> from a thoroughly odious individual. Shame on you.



Shame on me ?

I thought it was an excellent comparison.


Holocaust deniers are told about the holocaust but against substantial evidence proof (they can visit the sites) news history books and the rest of society knowing it happened, they simply refuse to believe it ever happened.


Aircraft noise deniers are told about the aircraft noise and its impact on others but against substantial evidence proof (they can look up at the sky and hear the noise) read the news and the rest of society knowing the noise is there they simply refuse to believe anyone has a problem.



Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word odious the only odious people in this thread are those who have zero sympathy continue to say they have no problem and those who insult with moronic posts.

Looking of an odious individual, go look in a mirror UC!

fazer71

fazer71

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TheArtfulDogger Wrote:

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> What fascinates me about this thread is



> Whilst this is a thread about the noise, there is

> also a valid points made by those who can't hear

> it and maybe someone with a bit IT skills can ask

> people to plot where they live on a map and if

> they can hear the planes or not, that way it will

> demonstrate where the noise seems to be the worst

> or if it is isolated cases in certain areas where

> certain people are more sensitive to the noise

> than others.



Facinating thread *ummm* shouldn?t be for those who can?t hear / don?t have a problem.


No one in their right mind would be happy about 4am flights waking them or the dead and constant flights over their homes whilst they are relaxing in their gardens.


I don?t get your nimby comment.


This forum and this thread would be a great to as you say ?campaign against it? but it is continuously railroaded and disrupted by posts which are OT that divert the conversation towards a we do and we don?t have a problem argument. Utterly pointless IMO.


I wonder would these same weird people be out there holding up placards

??? WE DON?T HEAR THE AIRCRAFT NOISE ! ?? at an aircraft noise rally?

IE the equivalent to coming on this thread and posting ? WHAT AIRCRAFT NOISE? or similar moronic statements?


It is great to hear you say this is a thread about the noise.. as opposed to .. the lack of noise.


As for the map idea .. good idea ..

In my experience the noise is equally evident and equally loud from Goose Green Peckham Rye and over to the South Circular side of Dulwich Park ie most of ED and much of DV.

Everyone has different levels which affect them I may be on high sensitive side but everyone who I?ve questioned locally ie neighbours etc hear the noise and find it irritating heavy sleepers don?t have an issue in the morning but when they are awake out in their gardens they are affected.


Thank you.


The worry is .. others..

Q. ETA for a moronic opposing ot post. ?

A. Within 24hrs >? they just can't help themselves.

Otta

Otta

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fazer71 Wrote:

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> (YES we could move away but we don?t want to, why

> should we when we moved here there was no aircraft

> noise!



Flights are only really likely to increase as time passes, so really is probably best if you just go now.


>

> I had a thought maybe aircraft noise deniers and

> holocaust deniers have brains wired in the same

> way or maybe aircraft noise deniers are simply

> deaf?

>



You really are a little bit special aren't you?

fazer71

fazer71

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And the prize for making an ot post goes to Otta.


Ot because it's a personal attack AND INSULT on me. "I'M SPECIAL" APPARENTLY.


AND I SHOULD GO...



ON TOPIC... yes flights will increase but there's nothing that says every fu?king one should go over ED UC!



Moron of the day = Otta.. You insult and belittle me I have every right to respond in the same way. UC ...

fazer71

fazer71

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http://www.no3rdrunway.co.uk/


http://hacan.org.uk/



Think it's bad now!

Watch these videos to see what we would have with a third runway!









South London is sleep walking into an aircraft noise nightmare.


This is our experience it began with a little aircraft noise and now it's constant !



South London Vauxhaull East Dulwich NEXT to feel the increase! City Airport and Heathrow!

Otta

Otta

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fazer71 Wrote:

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> Otta you're a disgrace.

>

> Insulting me and belittle me with your playground

> bullying language.

>

> Gutter post very low indeed.

>

> Very sad I must be on the receiving end of your

> vile post.



You called me worse and itbhad to be deleted. Grow up.


Anyway, aircraft noise...

fazer71

fazer71

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edcam Wrote:

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> Fazer's comparison of people who don't have a

> problem with this perceived "aircraft noise" and

> holocaust deniers has to be one of the most

> bizarre and offensive that I've read on this

> forum. He/she clearly has some major issues.



Really .... Offensive in exactly what way?


Will be interesting to see exactly who has "major" issues...



ourbubbleonline Wrote:

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> This is one of the most entertaining posts on the

> forum! LOL



Don't you mean threads?

fazer71

fazer71

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edcam Wrote:

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> fazer71 Wrote:

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> > Really .... Offensive in exactly what way?

> >

> If you don't know then there really is little hope

> for you.



JUST TELL ME !!!!!

FFS !


edit to add.





This thread is no longer the ??Aircraft Noise?? thread it??s officially the ??I can??t use my brain in a logical way?? thread.

Totally railroaded by those .. who can??t use their brains in a logical way . !!!



Let??s be clear


this is what I said..


1st comment

I had a thought maybe aircraft noise deniers and holocaust deniers have brains wired in the same way or maybe aircraft noise deniers are simply deaf?


2nd comment

Holocaust deniers are told about the holocaust but against substantial evidence proof (they can visit the sites) news history books and the rest of society knowing it happened, they simply refuse to believe it ever happened.


Aircraft noise deniers are told about the aircraft noise and its impact on others but against substantial evidence proof (they can look up at the sky and hear the noise) read the news and the rest of society knowing the noise is there they simply refuse to believe anyone has a problem.



The clue is in the bit where I say ??brains wired in the same?? .


It??s not as though I??m comparing the holocaust with aircraft noise.

That would be offensive.

I??m comparing the mentality of those who would deny something which happened.




Can??t wait to hear your from you .. ?? :)

Zebedee Tring

Zebedee Tring

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On one level I find Fazer's stance amusing and indeed contradictory since, on the basis of his posting history, he appears to be a free market enthusiast who believes that the market is always right and that state intervention of any kind constitutes dogmatic socialism. One would therefore expect him to say that if the market demands unlimited flights and airport runways, then this should be allowed.


However, since I am a compassionate man, I would like to offer him an argument that will enable him to climb out of the hole that he has dug for himself. Instead of comparing climate change deniers to Holocaust deniers, a better analogy would be the "birthers" in the USA who, in spite of all the evidence produced, still argue that Obama wasn't born in the USA and therefore shouldn't be President.

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