Has Sorsi & Morsi closed for good?

[Jeremy]

I do love a nice drop of something challenging!

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> I can understand why Sue would not like it. It's

> cheap and used by ordinary people.

>

Excuse me???!!!

Perhaps you'd like to expand on that bizarre statement?

ETA: I don't like oysters or caviar either. So perhaps you'd like to make some further assumptions about my character from that :(

[jimbo1964]

I like both oysters and caviar (not that I've had much caviar).

[KidKruger]

"Manzes: They would NEVER come to ED. They don't need to..."

Manzes couldn't open another branch even if they wanted to, they don't have the capability especially at today's lease / freehold prices in London.

[DulwichFox]

No offence was meant Sue but your original comments about your friends

having to wait in the street due to the smell of the food I found offensive.

A bit of a downer on ordinary working people. ??

Even Posh people like you eat Pie & Mash..

You seem to of tried every new restaurant in ED and 'Bellenden Village..'

Judging by your posts here.. whilst claiming to be 'Poor' :(

I do not claim to be poor but I could not afford to eat out in most of those places.

DulwichFox

[Jeremy]

Thinking that food smells bad is in no way offensive to anybody, except maybe the cook.

[jimbo1964]

They can have that 'school dinner' smell which isn't always pleasant. I'm sure no class warfare was intended.

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> No offence was meant Sue but your original

> comments about your friends

> having to wait in the street due to the smell of

> the food I found offensive.

>

> A bit of a downer on ordinary working people. ??

> Even Posh people like you eat Pie & Mash..

>

> You seem to of tried every new restaurant in ED

> and 'Bellenden Village..'

> Judging by your posts here.. whilst claiming to

> be 'Poor' :(

>

> I do not claim to be poor but I could not afford

> to eat out in most of those places.

>

Dear oh dear oh dear.

First of all, I was in Manzes with quite a large group of friends, and it was ONE friend who had to wait in the street, not "friends". Of the rest of us, some enjoyed the pie, mash and liquor and some didn't. I didn't.

I suppose then you would divide my friends into "posh" and "not posh" depending on whether or not they liked Manzes' food :))

"A bit of a downer on ordinary working people"?!?!?!?! I worked my arse off for a great part of my life, from the time I was a student until the time I retired, so how dare you!

What on earth do you mean by "posh people like you"? FFS, you know me, we live in the same street. Perhaps you could explain what exactly makes me "posh", as I certainly do not possess anything worth stealing even.

When exactly did I "claim to be poor"? I wouldn't be so offensive to people trying to bring up a family on income support and having to buy food from food banks as to "claim to be poor."

I'm retired and living on a pension. Perhaps you'd like to come and inspect my bank statements. I have a bit of money from my pension lump sum five years ago, with which I am getting a new kitchen. So clearly I am not "poor".

You say I seem to have tried "every new restaurant in ED and 'Bellenden Village' ??

Well I haven't actually. You must have miscalculated when keeping a record of every time I have mentioned a restaurant on here :))

I went to The Begging Bowl once, when I took Nyge out for his fiftieth. Terribly sorry, perhaps I should have taken him to McDonalds so that people like you wouldn't call me "posh". We haven't been able to afford to go there again.

We've eaten at ToastEd maybe three times, for lunch on the Saturday as a treat after we've worn ourselves out running a big gig.

I've eaten at Franco Manca several times because it's extremely good value for money.

Where else do you think I must be "posh" because I've eaten there? God knows.

You say "I do not claim to be poor but I could not afford to eat out in most of those places". Really? As you have said that you frequently eat out in Indian restaurants, I suggest that you could.

People choose what to spend their money on, whether they have a lot or a little. I like to eat out occasionally, and I don't see why that is a reason for you to start attacking me in such a ridiculous manner!

GRRRRRR!!!!!

ETA: And why do you seem to think that "posh" and "poor" are opposites? What exactly is your definition of "posh"?

ETA: And why do so many bloody threads on here seem to deteriorate into some kind of class war? Why can't people just accept individuals as they are instead of trying to put them in stereotyped pigeon holes all the time?

[maxxi]

Back in the 80s I ate pie & mash at Manzes (Peckham) and Cooks (The Cut) and one over in Canning Town when I lived there - liked it because it was a 'Lahndahn' thing and I was just down from the Midlands (where a faggot-and-pea batch shop would have been the diner du jour) but when in Rome... liked it but not crazy about it - okay, cheap and filling. Would rather have a nice sourdough pizza nowadays tbh.

And while we're in the vicinity - jellied eels are 'orrible. Smoked eel is ambrosia. Go figure.

[Sue]

maxxi Wrote:

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> Back in the 80s I ate pie & mash at Manzes

> (Peckham) and Cooks (The Cut) and one over in

> Canning Town when I lived there - liked it because

> it was a 'Lahndahn' thing and I was just down from

> the Midlands (where a faggot-and-pea batch shop

> would have been the diner du jour) but when in

> Rome... liked it but not crazy about it - okay,

> cheap and filling. Would rather have a nice

> sourdough pizza nowadays tbh.

>

> And while we're in the vicinity - jellied eels are

> 'orrible. Smoked eel is ambrosia. Go figure.

Ah! I love faggots and peas! Reminds me of my childhood!

What will Dulwich Fox make of that?

He'll have to knock out the partitions between his poor/posh pigeon holes :))

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Did DF not say somewhere he eats out 3 or 4 times a week? Nice work if you can get it.

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[edcam]

Not liking the smell of food is offensive? Wow. That's a new one.

[DulwichFox]

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Did DF not say somewhere he eats out 3 or 4 times

> a week? Nice work if you can get it.

I did when I was working ... 70 - 90 hours a week and renting out my old flat and got 6% interest on my savings.

I am very frugal and do not waste money..

I no longer work. I had to sell my home to pay for the one I live in now. and I get nothing in the way of interest.

Just a small works pension. 1/3 of what I what I was once earning.

Plus I did not have a holiday for 9 years.

I have had the same car for 10 years.. < 2,000 miles per year essential millage.

No w/e trips to the coast.

So I dine out a few times a week.

And I eat in cheap places.. Not Ganapati, Franklins, Palmerston.....

I'm at home all day. I live alone and do not see a sole. I have no family.

So I go out most nights to reassure myself I am still alive.

So if anyone has got a problem with any of that.. ???

DulwichFox

[Louisa]

Fox a lot of people are in a similar position believe me, and damn right you're entitled to a few meals out a week as you get older. I only wish I could afford to pop into toastED and all the other classy places we have around here. It seems working class is fine for people who've moved here from elsewhere in the UK reminiscing about their 'upbringing' but as locals who've been here forever Our working class culture including food is looked down upon and constantly criticised. I'm not a fan of half the rubbish northerners eat but I don't put it down. Blow in people love the bright lights of london which they see as an opportunity to frequent in posh food types and snub the existing culinary treats of the city. Typical.

Louisa.

[Jeremy]

I don't care how often you eat out, fox. But I don't see why you feel the need to constantly repeat your disdain for pizza, or pretty much any eaterie which isn't aimed at your individual tastes and budget. You've turned into a combination of Louisa and Victor Meldrew, but without the funny(ish) bits.

[Alan Medic]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Did DF not say somewhere he eats out 3 or 4

> times

> > a week? Nice work if you can get it.

>

> I did when I was working ... 70 - 90 hours a week

> and renting out my old flat and got 6% interest on

> my savings.

> I am very frugal and do not waste money..

>

> I no longer work. I had to sell my home to pay for

> the one I live in now. and I get nothing in the

> way of interest.

> Just a small works pension. 1/3 of what I what I

> was once earning.

>

> Plus I did not have a holiday for 9 years.

>

> I have had the same car for 10 years.. miles per year essential millage.

> No w/e trips to the coast.

>

> So I dine out a few times a week.

> And I eat in cheap places.. Not Ganapati,

> Franklins, Palmerston.....

>

> I'm at home all day. I live alone and do not see a

> sole. I have no family.

> So I go out most nights to reassure myself I am

> still alive.

>

> So if anyone has got a problem with any of that..

> ???

>

Well yes. A sole is a fish.

[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> I don't care how often you eat out, fox. But I

> don't see why you feel the need to constantly

> repeat your disdain for pizza, or pretty much any

> eaterie which isn't aimed at your individual

> tastes and budget. You've turned into a

> combination of Louisa and Victor Meldrew, but

> without the funny(ish) bits.

I Was challenged about my eating arrangements and financial situation.

Just defending the constant tiresome unimaginative comments thrown at myself

by people who have no positive comments of their own.

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Did DF not say somewhere he eats out 3 or 4 times

> a week? Nice work if you can get it.

Well least I'm using my own well deserved retirement time, and not getting paid

for posting here when I should be working.

Foxy

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Fox...that was posted at 5.40am. You point is caller?

On lunch now.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I don't care how often you eat out, fox. But I

> > don't see why you feel the need to constantly

> > repeat your disdain for pizza, or pretty much

> any

> > eaterie which isn't aimed at your individual

> > tastes and budget. You've turned into a

> > combination of Louisa and Victor Meldrew, but

> > without the funny(ish) bits.

>

> I Was challenged about my eating arrangements and

> financial situation.

> Just defending the constant tiresome unimaginative

> comments thrown at myself

> by people who have no positive comments of their

> own.

>

> Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------

> ------

> > Did DF not say somewhere he eats out 3 or 4

> times

> > a week? Nice work if you can get it.

>

> Well least I'm using my own well deserved

> retirement time, and not getting paid

> for posting here when I should be working.

>

> Foxy

[jimbo1964]

I think some people need to get a grip. We're talking about pie and mash and pizza.

[maxxi]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Fox a lot of people are in a similar position

> believe me, and damn right you're entitled to a

> few meals out a week as you get older. I only wish

> I could afford to pop into toastED and all the

> other classy places we have around here. It seems

> working class is fine for people who've moved here

> from elsewhere in the UK reminiscing about their

> 'upbringing' but as locals who've been here

> forever Our working class culture including food

> is looked down upon and constantly criticised. I'm

> not a fan of half the rubbish northerners eat but

> I don't put it down. Blow in people love the

> bright lights of london which they see as an

> opportunity to frequent in posh food types and

> snub the existing culinary treats of the city.

> Typical.

>

> Louisa.

What a lot of half-baked arse.

"I only wish

> I could afford to pop into toastED and all the

> other classy places we have around here."

So your main (only?) objection is that you don't have as much money as some others around here?

"It seems

> working class is fine for people who've moved here

> from elsewhere in the UK reminiscing about their

> 'upbringing' but as locals who've been here

> forever Our working class culture including food

> is looked down upon and constantly criticised."

What does this even mean?

Because I wasn't born here my working class reminiscences are some kind of irrelevance because your little suburb has been invaded by 'superior beings' who constantly look down on you and criticise your food? That must be awful - probably stops you from eating does it? Because if anyone criticised what I liked to eat I don't know how I could continue.

Or is it just because some of them have more money than you and like different shit and - quelle frickin' surprise - there are people prepared to sell it to them in the hope of making a few quid?

Or is it simply that you have decided they are a different 'class' (and you are the sole arbiter as to what class any individual belongs to) and so what they want/like must be attacked?

Or are you fine with different classes as long ad they don't move to your suburb?

And if they do they must sign a pledge never to change anything?

If there's any 'looking down' and 'constant' criticism re food on this forum it comes from you in your interminable bitter rants against anything that's changed since you were young.

Blow in people love the

> bright lights of london which they see as an

> opportunity to frequent in posh food types and

> snub the existing culinary treats of the city.

> Typical.

I am a blow-in (only lived in London 32 years and only ED since 2006) and I have eaten at burger vans and Quaglinos, Pie shops and Pont de la Tour (though I've not tried all the historic culinary delights of the city as sparrow-on-a-stick was phased out before I got here - bloody gentrification).

I have 'snubbed' nothing but have stopped eating some of the 'culinary treats' finding them not particularly treat-y and yet discovering some new ones that are (I had never had sourdough pizza before coming sarf, never tried sushi, never had fresh pasta - you get the gist).

I am though, I suppose, in your eyes 'Typical'.

[FJDGoose]

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[Cedges]

So did we ever establish if Sorsi and Morsi has closed for good???!

[jimbo1964]

Not sure. Feel compelled to post the lyrics to the Likely Lads theme though.

Oh, what happened to you?

Whatever happened to me?

What became of the people we used to be?

Tomorrow's almost over,

Today went by so fast,

The only thing to look forward to is the past.

[edcam]

When do we get a Waitrose?