macroban Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 On page 23 of Southwark PCT's consultation document - "Transforming Southwark's NHS" - it says "Life expectancy varies within Dulwich, with Nunhead having a lower than average life expectancy".I'm surprised.What causal factors are there among the Nunhead population to distinguish it from that of East Dulwich? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
languagelounger Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Ceaseless toil and grinding poverty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 the ciggies can't help either Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
languagelounger Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Or, could it be that Southwark Council knowingly let its cemeteries manager continue with a cosy little arrangement to dump toxic waste in the cemeteries which surround us, for pushing, what 15 years plus? Carcinogens, asbestos, and was that aromatic hydrocarbons? Anyone for leukemia, a range of lovely cancers, MS, lupus, sjorgren's, RA etc, etc? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 nope - I'm going with cigarettesInteresting allegations about southwark council tho. Knowingly??Not a lot of news on this one but from the local press Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulwichmum Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I think that it must be a combination of grinding poverty, squalor and the ready availability of fabulous buns and confectionary. I hold the proprieters of Ayres the bakers partly responsible. Shame on them... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
languagelounger Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Knowingly. They were shown photographs of huge mounds of dumped waste and asked, both verbally and in writing, how exactly it came to be that the person driving the dumper had the key to the council's own lock to the site. They took no action. They refused to even listen to a highly regarded independent expert who offered to address them on how to properly manage their cemeteries. When local people organised their own meeting for that person to talk to the public, Connor, the cemeteries manager, and his boss, one Keith Weir, came to the meeting organised by the public, and Weir was witnessed threatening the independent expert with violence. The witness was a South London Press reporter, it was in the SLP at the time. That was years ago.Personally, I shall be refusing to pay the rise in council tax that they will want to dump on us too, to fund the clearance. These costs must be met by the councillors and officers who allowed it to continue. We also need a full independent epidemiological study of the population who have used the cemeteries, as they were urged to by the Council, for "leisure". Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benmorg Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Ayres bakery's sausage rolls have a lot to answer for. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 SeanMacGabhann Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> the ciggies can't help eitherI agree. The fuller the ashtray the lower the income. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikecg Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Bigbadwolf wrote,I agree. The fuller the ashtray the lower the income.snip<What a load of old bollox.This lot have got or have had a few quid. If I die from a smoking related disease, atleast I would have paid for treatment from the gargantuan tax I have paid over the years, oh and I wont need my nappy changed when I'm 90.http://www.jusonline.nl/smokers/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 There are a lot of (or appear to be a lot of ) shelters for homeless people, and homes for disabled people, in Nunhead. Whilst not all disabled people are likely to die earlier than able-bodied, I know some disabilities carry with them a lower life expectancy. So given the above, statistically maybe it is going to be the case.And I see more people smoking in Nunhead than in Lordship Lane! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I'd put it down to higher average wage in ED meaning more people able to afford a concubine to blow strawberry-scented oxygen into their ailing lungs if they so wanted, which pushes the life-expectancy right up. Not rocket science. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 East Dulwich has several immortals which pushes up the average? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-166899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinceayre Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 A note from the owners of Ayres the Bakers.I refute all suggestions of mass murder.I know for a fact that neither I nor my ancestors have killed any of our customers by selling them fabulous buns and cakes because i have often asked them whether they are dead and they have catagorically said no.Dulwichmum cannot know much about our shop as I do not believe she has ever paid less than ?5.00 for a loaf of bread so would have no idea what a proper bakers is.For the sausage rolls I offer no defence.So there!!ps: DM I would have added a link to your UberBlog but dont know how. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Honk wrote:- I'd put it down to higher average wage in ED meaning more people able to afford a concubine to blow strawberry-scented oxygen into their ailing lungs if they so wanted, which pushes the life-expectancy right up.Were I to beget a strawbery scented concubine I don't expect 'BLOWING' oxygen would be the first job I'd have in mind. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 To quote David Mitchell in yesterday?s Observer, ??I'm against death. Although I suppose I haven't fully thought through the consequences if people didn't. [die]? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 vinceayre Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> A note from the owners of Ayres the Bakers.> > I refute all suggestions of mass murder.> I know for a fact that neither I nor my ancestors> have killed any of our customers by selling them> fabulous buns and cakes because i have often asked> them whether they are dead and they have> catagorically said no.> Dulwichmum cannot know much about our shop as I do> not believe she has ever paid less than ?5.00 for> a loaf of bread so would have no idea what a> proper bakers is.> For the sausage rolls I offer no defence.> > So there!!> > ps: DM I would have added a link to your UberBlog> but dont know how.Hee hee! A funny baker of fabulous confectionary ... have we found the perfect man? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Life expectancy varies within DulwichSurely that applies everywhere Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Yes it all depends on what part of Dulwich you are in. For instance the life expectancy of someone in an Edwardian town house in the village is on average considerably more than that of someone on the track at East Dulwich Station. It is these sorts of social inequalities that we need to address. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Brendan you made me lol.Good man:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonM Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I have to say there are far worse ways to go than by consuming a surfeit of Ayre's most excellent saausage rolls.....and now I feel peckish! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Do they actually have proper sausagemeat in them, or is it Greggs-style pink mush? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonM Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 lovely peppery brown meat not pink - and gorgeous light pastry...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (I should get a month's free supply for this, hint, hint) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Do they actually have proper sausagemeat in them,> or is it Greggs-style pink mush?I thought it was all the offal from stem cell research. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benmorg Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It's brownish pink mush in the sausage rolls. If you buy them late in the day then the base will have hardened into what can only be described as scalding grease-filled cardboard.The bread is a different matter though. It really is much better than anything in sainsburys or the East Dulwich baker. Sainsbury's bread tastes revolting and stale after you've tried the loaves from Ayres. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5228-life-expectancy-in-east-dulwich-and-nunhead-lounged/#findComment-167200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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