Jade Goody

[????]

Are any of you middleclass tossers gonna buy me a drink if I come along tonight?

[snorky]

agree with Keef

you middle class tossers

[Moos]

???? Wrote:

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> Are any of you middleclass tossers gonna buy me a

> drink if I come along tonight?

Oh Quids, you're so sexy when you're all macho like that.

[SeanMacGabhann]

come along quids - Louisa is standing me a round. And if she stands me up I'll get them in...

[Jah Lush]

I'm willing to bet that most of the people who have contributed to this thread have never read so many column inches about Jade Goody until now.

[DaveR]

I feel as sorry for JG and her family as I would anybody else in the same situation, and I'm certainly not going to make judgments about whether she could have been more proactive about being tested etc. The debate about the corrosive nature of the cult of celebrity isn't changed by the fact that JG is sick. I wasn't interested in her or her life before, and I'm not now. I think it's unlikely she will have anything original or interesting to say now (she never appeared to before), whereas John Diamond, for example, was a features/diary writer with an established audience who simply carried on writing.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

???? Wrote:

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> Are any of you middleclass tossers gonna buy me a

> drink if I come along tonight?

Have one for me Quidsy, My Son!:)-D

[*Bob*]

Louisa's promised to split a round with me - but we can't stay long because we're going out dancing.

[Sue]

RosieH Wrote:

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> > As for "she never went for her smear" - I'm

> incredulous. What about all the cancer sufferers

> who never quit smoking? @#$%& 'em, idiots, they

> deserve it.

xxxxxx

I haven't seen anybody here suggesting she or anybody else "deserved" to get cancer.

:-S

I drink more than I should. If I die of liver disease, I shall be very sorry for myself but will also be clear that I had the choice to stop drinking and chose not to.

If other people "judged" me for that I would probably be pissed off, but I would understand why they did.

It can be hard to give something up even if you know it's bad for you. I knew someone who died of lung cancer in his early thirties leaving two young kids. He was a heavy smoker.

But having a smear test doesn't even involve giving anything up except a bit of time to attend a GP appointment.

Anyway whatever the ins and outs of why Jade Goody didn't do this, I still think the publicity is helpful in prompting other people to take appropriate steps to prevent/treat possible cancer.

[Jimbob]

huge whiff of guilt in the air about ms goody, now she has the big c. shes a brave,loving mother of 2, same people couldn,t have gave 2 shits about her when she was making her money, the treatment she received in the media was downright disgraceful, admittedly a lot of it she brought on herself.

now shes brave,shes loving, shes not the only mother of 2 to be suffering from cancer, but at least she has a few bob in her back pocket to ease the pain, most of the others don,t, but thats fame for you.

[giggirl]

BlueOne Wrote:

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Is there some sort of

> league table that we should consult before

> expressing sympathy for an individual who is

> suffering from cancer?

>

You?re right, there shouldn?t be a league table when it comes to compassion. As far as their humanity is concerned, there is no difference between Jade Goody and, say, Princess Dianna, or indeed any other mother who dies young. They are equally deserving of our compassion as death is, after all, the great leveller.

But you cannot be surprised when those of us for whom celebrity culture is abhorrent are irritated by seeing Jade all over the media. Celebrity culture is right up there with global warming on my ?legacy for the next generation: reasons to be afraid? list. Jade is the personification of celebrity culture. The woman needs to not be in my face at the supermarket checkout.

[Cassius]

I personally cannot stand celebrity culture, I have never seen BB or any of its ilk, and I would love JG to go away, unfortunately now she might go away in a way that I would not have wished on my worst enemy.

[RosieH]

Sue Wrote:

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> RosieH Wrote:

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> > > As for "she never went for her smear" - I'm

> > incredulous. What about all the cancer

> sufferers

> > who never quit smoking? @#$%& 'em, idiots,

> they

> > deserve it.

>

> xxxxxx

>

> I haven't seen anybody here suggesting she or

> anybody else "deserved" to get cancer.

Sue, sorry if I seemed to be overreacting but when I read

I don't want to sound harsh but quite frankly I couldn't give a flying fcuk about Jade Goody and her cancer stories in the media. I know for sure that her cancer spread because she ignored all the signs and left it too late before finally being diagonosed but if all her publicity seeking helps girls check themselves out with smear tests and whatnot then that's not a bad thing at all.

From a personal angle I also have a young friend dying of cancer at the moment and she far more deserves my attention and support than this thick borderline racist old slapper from a crappy reality TV show.

... I took that to be judgmental.

I don't think anyone should be in advance mourning for Jade Goody, her friends and loved ones aside. But I do think it's sad and I don't think her illness should be taken as an opportunity to stamp all over her, again.

Jade Goody isn't to blame for celebrity culture, she just capitalised on it. I'm no more interested in reading stories about her than I am stories about Keira Knightley, Angelina Jolie or Cheryl Cole but I'm afraid I'm in the minority. They sell magazines by the millions so I'm afraid we're all stuck with it at the supermarket checkout.

I think most of us would probably agree that celebrity culture is not what we would wish for. I just think it's ugly that terminal illness should serve as the catalyst for personal insult.

[Atila Reincarnate]

RosieH Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > RosieH Wrote:

> >

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>

> > -----

> > > > As for "she never went for her smear" - I'm

> > > incredulous. What about all the cancer

> > sufferers

> > > who never quit smoking? @#$%& 'em, idiots,

> > they

> > > deserve it.

> >

> > xxxxxx

> >

> > I haven't seen anybody here suggesting she or

> > anybody else "deserved" to get cancer.

>

> Jade Goody isn't to blame for celebrity culture,

> she just capitalised on it.

Isn't capitalising on celebrity cultue merely helping to perpetuate it?

[RosieH]

Sure, if no celebs sold their stories then there'd be nothing to fill the magazines.

Equally if no one bought the magazines, then they wouldn't have the budget to pay celebrities for their stories (hmm, although we would still face the issue of the tabloids).

It's a huge industry with millions of willing participants. Jade Goody is merely one of those millions.

[Chick]

Mo Mowlem wasn't useless, she told Dr Reverend Ian Paisley to fcuk off.

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> So a useless middle class Labout politician is ok

> but a pushy working class girl

> isn't....yup........why don't we take the cool

> posturing out of the equation and agree with TLS

[philip walker]

The girl must be petrified. Yes she is selling her story but I believe that is to provide for her kids as there is a real possibility they might find themselves without their Mother.

Who cares about celebrity culture, it is a young very sick girl and she deserves our prayers and thoughts, as do anyone in the same situation, whatever it is they do for a living.

[Beauty Buzz]

I really feel that the comment below from an ealier thread is a little harsh...

"I'm sick to death of her ugly piggy face in the tabs every day milking her illness to the highest bidders."

I've interviewed Jade Goody a few times. And despite the controversy that followed her after she left the celeb BB house a few years ago, she is actually a pleasant down-to-earth girl, who has proved she to be an amazing Mother to her boys. Who can blame her for speaking to the press if it means she might be able to ensure her children are financially secure if she does die? Yes, she is famous for all the wrong reasons, but it's down to you if buy the magazines that publicise her battle with cancer. And, although it has been reported that Jade didn't have regular smear tests, I believe she is in the process of taking action against the NHS after they gave her the all clear from cervical cancer a year ago.

Love her, or hate her, I'm sure that everyone just wants her to pull through.

[Cassius]

philip walker Wrote:

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>

> Who cares about celebrity culture, it is a young

> very sick girl and she deserves our prayers and

> thoughts, as do anyone in the same situation,

> whatever it is they do for a living.

Careful - some nurse nearly lost her job for offering to pray for a patient!

[Mikecg]

Jade Goody died today aged 27, tragic so thoughts go out to her family and the two little boys she has left behind RIP......

[mockney piers]

Headline: Mother of two dies of cancer.

Sad private tragedy, but it ain't news.

Her utter irrelevance and inanity, juxtaposed by the curious public obsession with it, irked me in life. It does no less so in death. I mean, the prime minister felt the need to say something; haven't you got an economy you fucked up to sort out or something?

[Mikecg]

Have a heart you bastard

[woofmarkthedog]

Oh my...

[ThinLizzy]

..yes, I've wrestled with this one all day .. sad loss of a young girl's life, sad loss for her family, but does it really warrant the media circus it has become? I really despise myself for saying this, but the ultimate reality coverage was hers wasn't it? Looking through the coverage, even up to the last minute she was performing for the cameras -- I think what upsets me the most is that her life became a parody. It's great that she has left a shed load of money for her family and raised awareness of cervical cancer, but I can't help think that she lost her 'existentialism' a long, long time ago.

However, I do admire her for successfully taking an opportunity to make good a bad start -- what else could she have done, having not received a good education (I think I read somewhere today she missed a lot of school because of family tragedies), and suffering the mishaps of her 'elders and betters'? Good for her that she was able to make the best success she could of her life, and still smile when facing ridicule for what I would call 'situationally-enforced ignorance'. For a seemingly simple girl, quite a complex story, picked at by media vultures.

BUT: Nothing can forgive her racism towards Shilpa Shetty -- and she only came on tv with tearful apologies because she knew it would redeem her a bit -- once a racist, always a racist in my book

[mockney piers]

Better expressed than I Lizzy, but I fully concur.

Her kids were sorted anyway, she has millions already. Public attention became an addiction, perhaps the only way she could validate herself, through the lens of the 'public' or as you say, media circus, death gave her no reason to look inward, just another excuse to get herself in the papers. No publicity is bad publicity is it.

She became a poster child for pretty much everything that's wrong with this country, ignorance, stupidity, crassness, bullying, racism, incivility, indeed she represented almost a celebration of those things in a way that, sadly seems to utterly lack irony.

I won't miss her one iota.

Have a heart you say; we've all had to cope with personal tragedies, it's something that happens every day, quietly and with dignity, a facet entirely missing from this whole affair.

If I read of someone killed on the roads, I briefly feel empathy for those involved, having seen friends go the same way, but I don't know them from Adam, and would not come on a forum to express my condolences, what's the point, smacks of Goodyesque solipsism if you ask me; now the irony.

Meanwhile we drop bombs on the innocent, daily without so much as cause for comment anymore. Sorry, my heart's all bled out on this one.