Monkey Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So today I left work in moorgate at 1645 and might not be home in time to pick up my daughter in east Dulwich for 6.00pm. Spoke to three members of staff. It should get better by January. I encourage you all to log your complaints. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I've complained that it can take over 5 minutes to get off platform 15 in the morning peak, and that the crowd can be quite tight.Not heard anything back...and apparently it's going to be like that until 2016? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 2018 is completion of worksI am caught up in the platform squueze every morning and it's a royal pain - but given teh scale of construction what do people expect staff/TFL to actually do?It is what it is... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> 2018 is completion of works> > I am caught up in the platform squueze every> morning and it's a royal pain - but given teh> scale of construction what do people expect> staff/TFL to actually do?> > It is what it is...Just tell me when it will stop - some say 2014, others 2015, now 2018.The staff I've asked at London Bridge don't know.I just want to be kept informed... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 When will what stop? The whole project? 2018The shuffling along platform_15? That's probably got variables in play - I just accept it is unlikely to happen anytime soon Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/12179.aspx Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm not convinced that it's going to improve much until the works are finished in 2018, but hope I'm proved wrong. For me it just emphasises why we should be pushing hard for an extension of the tube network into SE London. We are totally reliant on the trains with no viable, high speed alternative.... I know we have buses, but they're so slow in rush hour, that they don't represent a viable commuting option for many of us. We pay for the tube network through our taxes, we should be served by it as much as those in other parts of London. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Well everyone who doesn't live in London pays the same taxes and doesn't have a tube at all. That's not a logical argument.And there are proposals to extend the Bakerloo line but the timescales are lengthy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townleygreen Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Maybe take up cycling? You have control of when you arrive that way. I realise it won't suit all though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I can't really agree with this "I demand we have a tube line" stance, but I can agree that the current situation is unacceptable, and at times, dangerous.The trains are now so tightly scheduled that if one train is delayed, the whole network goes bang and they start having to cancel trains or miss out stops. Half hour waits are commonplace, as are 25 minute journeys. There is a lack of useful departure information at London Bridge. And at the end of all this... we'll have one less platform than we did to start with. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabot Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think it would be nice to get some sort of reprieve. Maybe swap trains to different platforms periodically to share the joys of platform 15. Would this be achievable? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Platform 15 isn't the only one with this problem - 4 days out of 5 I am on one of the other platforms and the same situation occurs Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I can't really agree with this "I demand we have a> tube line" stanceIf you look at the tube map, I think it's obvious that SE London is massively under served. This should be a strategic priority for investment / expansion. I'm not suggesting East Dulwich necessarily, but SE London generally. An entire quarter of London is reliant almost exclusively on trains and buses and as a result, when things go wrong on the former, there is carnage on the latter, leaving people with few options. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> When will what stop? The whole project? 2018> > The shuffling along platform_15? That's probably> got variables in play - I just accept it is> unlikely to happen anytime soonJust platform 15. That's all I care about. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Ah I see ? just like fazer71 and his planes noise threads?I don?t care if everything is interdependent and connected, just fix my bit? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyCat Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Looks like 2 more tube stations are heading South - sadly not in the SE direction though : (http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2014/11/14/all-stations-go-for-the-northern-line-extension-to-battersea/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> An entire quarter of London is reliant almost exclusively on> trains and buses and as a result, when things go> wrong on the former, there is carnage on the> latter, leaving people with few options.So you think every area of London should be served by at least three forms of transport, as a contingency measure?Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer a tube too... but I don't get the argument that carrying on without it is some sort of great burden. The current situation, while painful, is not permanent. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Ah I see ? just like fazer71 and his planes noise> threads> > ?I don?t care if everything is interdependent and> connected, just fix my bit?As it happens, I'm affected by the other parts too (no Charing Cross trains stopping from Jan 2015 to August 2016. Closure from 20 December to 4 Jan.).But no-one seems to be able to give me a concrete answer to this one question. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I just think that it is ridiculous that the tube network has a massive hole in it. That out of 270 stations only 5 in SE London, outside of Zone 1 and yet it doesn't get addressed. Instead money from the transport budget is used to fund tourist attractions like the Emirate Dangleway, the garden Bridge and vanity projects like the 'Boris bus'. The latest extension of the northern line serves an area where there is no current demand or existing community - it's is just a huge public subsidy to a development of luxury flats. So yes, I think it's reasonable to demand that transport priorities shift, so that the budget is used to improve provision for existing London communities, rather than serve the interests of property developers or the mayors ego. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I prefer to look at holes in the "transport network" rather than purely the "tube network".A once-a-ten minute train service to London Bridge - with easy interchange to Charing Cross - would be a perfectly respsectable service. If it worked. Without engineering works every. single. weekend. since. ever. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-798598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 So despite messages to Network Rail and the Thameslink programme, I can find no further info beyond that platform 15 will remain narrow "until 2016".Anyone able to confirm a rough date, even by quarter? 1 Jan 2016 is quite different from 31 December 2016... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-805994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 They need to put a train service on the platform at platform 15 to speed people leaving the platform. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/51414-trains/#findComment-806001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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