Huguenot Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 What, you can't defend communism, so you pretend I'm having a go at democracy and defend that instead? What kind of argument is that?Don't stay in school kids - with thanks to Nathaniel SpenglerI wish I could grow up dumbNo belief in an educationWith one hand firmly on the bibleThe other hand on a Gun Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Here's my favourite poetry about motorcycling, written by the excellent American self styled professor G Frazier.D'you like my bike?D'you like my bike?Show us yer tits.D'you like my bike? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Very good PR! I remember such phrases during my time in the US back in 1980. Happy days. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
immaterial Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Huguenot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------You honestly believe that 'Communes' are the solution, and you use poetry as a tool of persuasion? Hah! What a belly laugh.> What, you can't defend communism, so you pretend> I'm having a go at democracy and defend that> instead? What kind of argument is that?Hugenot - Open up another thread for your ill-considered, twisted rants!Leave Poetry Corner for Lyrics, of whatever political complexion.Percy Bysshe Shelley - The Mask of AnarchyWritten on the occasion of the massacre carried out at Peterloo, Manchester 1819 As I lay asleep in ItalyThere came a voice from over the Sea,And with great power it forth led meTo walk in the visions of Poesy.I met Murder on the way -He had a mask like Castlereagh -Very smooth he looked, yet grim;Seven blood-hounds followed him:All were fat; and well they mightBe in admirable plight,For one by one, and two by two,He tossed the human hearts to chewWhich from his wide cloak he drew.Next came Fraud, and he had on,Like Eldon, an ermined gown;His big tears, for he wept well,Turned to mill-stones as they fell.And the little children, whoRound his feet played to and fro,Thinking every tear a gem,Had their brains knocked out by them.Clothed with the Bible, as with light,And the shadows of the night,Like Sidmouth, next, HypocrisyOn a crocodile rode by.And many more Destructions playedIn this ghastly masquerade,All disguised, even to the eyes,Like Bishops, lawyers, peers, or spies.Last came Anarchy: he rodeOn a white horse, splashed with blood;He was pale even to the lips,Like Death in the Apocalypse.And he wore a kingly crown;And in his grasp a sceptre shone;On his brow this mark I saw -'I AM GOD, AND KING, AND LAW!'With a pace stately and fast,Over English land he passed,Trampling to a mire of bloodThe adoring multitude.And a mighty troop around,With their trampling shook the ground,Waving each a bloody sword,For the service of their Lord.And with glorious triumph, theyRode through England proud and gay,Drunk as with intoxicationOf the wine of desolation.O'er fields and towns, from sea to sea,Passed the Pageant swift and free,Tearing up, and trampling down;Till they came to London town.And each dweller, panic-stricken,Felt his heart with terror sickenHearing the tempestuous cryOf the triumph of Anarchy.For with pomp to meet him came,Clothed in arms like blood and flame,The hired murderers, who did sing'Thou art God, and Law, and King.'We have waited, weak and loneFor thy coming, Mighty One!Our Purses are empty, our swords are cold,Give us glory, and blood, and gold.'Lawyers and priests, a motley crowd,To the earth their pale brows bowed;Like a bad prayer not over loud,Whispering - 'Thou art Law and God.' -Then all cried with one accord,'Thou art King, and God and Lord;Anarchy, to thee we bow,Be thy name made holy now!'And Anarchy, the skeleton,Bowed and grinned to every one,As well as if his educationHad cost ten millions to the nation.For he knew the PalacesOf our Kings were rightly his;His the sceptre, crown and globe,And the gold-inwoven robe.So he sent his slaves beforeTo seize upon the Bank and Tower,And was proceeding with intentTo meet his pensioned ParliamentWhen one fled past, a maniac maid,And her name was Hope, she said:But she looked more like Despair,And she cried out in the air:'My father Time is weak and grayWith waiting for a better day;See how idiot-like he stands,Fumbling with his palsied hands!He has had child after child,And the dust of death is piledOver every one but me -Misery, oh, Misery!'Then she lay down in the street,Right before the horses' feet,Expecting, with a patient eye,Murder, Fraud, and Anarchy.When between her and her foesA mist, a light, an image rose,Small at first, and weak, and frailLike the vapour of a vale:Till as clouds grow on the blast,Like tower-crowned giants striding fast,And glare with lightnings as they fly,And speak in thunder to the sky,It grew - a Shape arrayed in mailBrighter than the viper's scale,And upborne on wings whose grainWas as the light of sunny rain.On its helm, seen far away,A planet, like the Morning's, lay;And those plumes its light rained throughLike a shower of crimson dew.With step as soft as wind it passedO'er the heads of men - so fastThat they knew the presence there,And looked, - but all was empty air.As flowers beneath May's footstep waken,As stars from Night's loose hair are shaken,As waves arise when loud winds call,Thoughts sprung where'er that step did fall.And the prostrate multitudeLooked - and ankle-deep in blood,Hope, that maiden most serene,Was walking with a quiet mien:And Anarchy, the ghastly birth,Lay dead earth upon the earth;The Horse of Death tameless as windFled, and with his hoofs did grindTo dust the murderers thronged behind.A rushing light of clouds and splendour,A sense awakening and yet tenderWas heard and felt - and at its closeThese words of joy and fear aroseAs if their own indignant EarthWhich gave the sons of England birthHad felt their blood upon her brow,And shuddering with a mother's throeHad turned every drop of bloodBy which her face had been bedewedTo an accent unwithstood, -As if her heart had cried aloud:'Men of England, heirs of Glory,Heroes of unwritten story,Nurslings of one mighty Mother,Hopes of her, and one another;'Rise like Lions after slumberIn unvanquishable number,Shake your chains to earth like dewWhich in sleep had fallen on you -Ye are many - they are few.'What is Freedom? - ye can tellThat which slavery is, too well -For its very name has grownTo an echo of your own.'Tis to work and have such payAs just keeps life from day to dayIn your limbs, as in a cellFor the tyrants' use to dwell,'So that ye for them are madeLoom, and plough, and sword, and spade,With or without your own will bentTo their defence and nourishment.'Tis to see your children weakWith their mothers pine and peak,When the winter winds are bleak, -They are dying whilst I speak.'Tis to hunger for such dietAs the rich man in his riotCasts to the fat dogs that lieSurfeiting beneath his eye;'Tis to let the Ghost of GoldTake from Toil a thousandfoldMore that e'er its substance couldIn the tyrannies of old.'Paper coin - that forgeryOf the title-deeds, which yeHold to something of the worthOf the inheritance of Earth.'Tis to be a slave in soulAnd to hold no strong controlOver your own wills, but beAll that others make of ye.'And at length when ye complainWith a murmur weak and vain'Tis to see the Tyrant's crewRide over your wives and you -Blood is on the grass like dew.'Then it is to feel revengeFiercely thirsting to exchangeBlood for blood - and wrong for wrong -Do not thus when ye are strong.'Birds find rest, in narrow nestWhen weary of their wing?d questBeasts find fare, in woody lairWhen storm and snow are in the air.'Asses, swine, have litter spreadAnd with fitting food are fed;All things have a home but one -Thou, Oh, Englishman, hast none!'This is slavery - savage menOr wild beasts within a denWould endure not as ye do -But such ills they never knew.'What art thou Freedom? O! could slavesAnswer from their living gravesThis demand - tyrants would fleeLike a dream's dim imagery:'Thou art not, as impostors say,A shadow soon to pass away,A superstition, and a nameEchoing from the cave of Fame.'For the labourer thou art bread,And a comely table spreadFrom his daily labour comeIn a neat and happy home.'Thou art clothes, and fire, and foodFor the trampled multitude -No - in countries that are freeSuch starvation cannot beAs in England now we see.'To the rich thou art a check,When his foot is on the neckOf his victim, thou dost makeThat he treads upon a snake.'Thou art Justice - ne'er for goldMay thy righteous laws be soldAs laws are in England - thouShield'st alike the high and low.'Thou art Wisdom - Freemen neverDream that God will damn for everAll who think those things untrueOf which Priests make such ado.'Thou art Peace - never by theeWould blood and treasure wasted beAs tyrants wasted them, when allLeagued to quench thy flame in Gaul.'What if English toil and bloodWas poured forth, even as a flood?It availed, Oh, Liberty,To dim, but not extinguish thee.'Thou art Love - the rich have kissedThy feet, and like him following Christ,Give their substance to the freeAnd through the rough world follow thee,'Or turn their wealth to arms, and makeWar for thy belov?d sakeOn wealth, and war, and fraud - whence theyDrew the power which is their prey.'Science, Poetry, and ThoughtAre thy lamps; they make the lotOf the dwellers in a cotSo serene, they curse it not.'Spirit, Patience, Gentleness,All that can adorn and blessArt thou - let deeds, not words, expressThine exceeding loveliness.'Let a great Assembly beOf the fearless and the freeOn some spot of English groundWhere the plains stretch wide around.'Let the blue sky overhead,The green earth on which ye tread,All that must eternal beWitness the solemnity.'From the corners uttermostOf the bounds of English coast;From every hut, village, and townWhere those who live and suffer moan,'From the workhouse and the prisonWhere pale as corpses newly risen,Women, children, young and oldGroan for pain, and weep for cold -'From the haunts of daily lifeWhere is waged the daily strifeWith common wants and common caresWhich sows the human heart with tares -'Lastly from the palacesWhere the murmur of distressEchoes, like the distant soundOf a wind alive around'Those prison halls of wealth and fashion,Where some few feel such compassionFor those who groan, and toil, and wailAs must make their brethren pale -'Ye who suffer woes untold,Or to feel, or to beholdYour lost country bought and soldWith a price of blood and gold -'Let a vast assembly be,And with great solemnityDeclare with measured words that yeAre, as God has made ye, free -'Be your strong and simple wordsKeen to wound as sharpened swords,And wide as targes let them be,With their shade to cover ye.'Let the tyrants pour aroundWith a quick and startling sound,Like the loosening of a sea,Troops of armed emblazonry.Let the charged artillery driveTill the dead air seems aliveWith the clash of clanging wheels,And the tramp of horses' heels.'Let the fix?d bayonetGleam with sharp desire to wetIts bright point in English bloodLooking keen as one for food.'Let the horsemen's scimitarsWheel and flash, like sphereless starsThirsting to eclipse their burningIn a sea of death and mourning.'Stand ye calm and resolute,Like a forest close and mute,With folded arms and looks which areWeapons of unvanquished war,'And let Panic, who outspeedsThe career of arm?d steedsPass, a disregarded shadeThrough your phalanx undismayed.'Let the laws of your own land,Good or ill, between ye standHand to hand, and foot to foot,Arbiters of the dispute,'The old laws of England - theyWhose reverend heads with age are gray,Children of a wiser day;And whose solemn voice must beThine own echo - Liberty!'On those who first should violateSuch sacred heralds in their stateRest the blood that must ensue,And it will not rest on you.'And if then the tyrants dareLet them ride among you there,Slash, and stab, and maim, and hew, -What they like, that let them do.'With folded arms and steady eyes,And little fear, and less surprise,Look upon them as they slayTill their rage has died away.'Then they will return with shameTo the place from which they came,And the blood thus shed will speakIn hot blushes on their cheek.'Every woman in the landWill point at them as they stand -They will hardly dare to greetTheir acquaintance in the street.'And the bold, true warriorsWho have hugged Danger in warsWill turn to those who would be free,Ashamed of such base company.'And that slaughter to the NationShall steam up like inspiration,Eloquent, oracular;A volcano heard afar.'And these words shall then becomeLike Oppression's thundered doomRinging through each heart and brain,Heard again - again - again -'Rise like Lions after slumberIn unvanquishable number -Shake your chains to earth like dewWhich in sleep had fallen on you -Ye are many - they are few Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well this one's just for you immaterial, from Ovid's Metamorphoses....Once a noisy Nymph,(who never held her tongue when others spoke,who never spoke till others had begun)mocking Echo, spied him as he drove,in his delusive nets, some timid stags.--for Echo was a Nymph, in olden time,--and, more than vapid sound,--possessed a form:and she was then deprived the use of speech,except to babble and repeat the words,once spoken, over and over.I trust you'll note my use of brevity for added impact. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antijen Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Babble babble toil and travel,Stories from the past,Repetition, smothered words,A quiet silence lasts.Over and over they try to gag,If you dont agree,A wall of words and judgement,To protect there liberty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallinello Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Huguenot, came across this in T.S Eliot's The Wasteland:A rat crept softly through the vegetation Dragging its slimy belly on the bank While I was fishing in the dull canal On a winter evening round behind the gashouse Musing upon the king my brother's wreck And on the king my father's death before him. White bodies naked on the low damp ground And bones cast in a little low dry garret, Rattled by the rat's foot only, year to year. But at my back from time to time I hear The sound of horns and motors, which shall bring Sweeney to Mrs. Porter in the spring. O the moon shone bright on Mrs. Porter And on her daughter They wash their feet in soda water Et, O ces voix d'enfants, chantant dans la coupole! Twit twit twit Jug jug jug jug jug jug So rudely forc'd. TereuClass(ic) poem! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Is that your own, antijen?Very good Gallinello, although I'm not too familiar with it.So much for armed revolution:Move him into the sun --Gently its touch awoke him once,At home, whispering of fields unsown.Always it woke him, even in France,Until this morning and this snow.If anything might rouse him nowThe kind old sun will know.Think how it wakes the seeds --Woke, once, the clays of a cold star.Are limbs so dear-achieved, are sidesFull-nerved, -- still warm, -- too hard to stir?Was it for this the clay grew tall?-- O what made fatuous sunbeams toilTo break earth's sleep at all?With thanks to Wilfred Owen Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallinello Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Huguenot - your disingenuousness knows no bounds! Futility refers to the pointlessness of the catastrophic, imperialist '14-'18 war, and not 'armed revolution'. If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin, If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs Bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-- My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.Wilfred OwenFrom Dulce et Decorum Est, absolutely not a poem about armed revolution! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antijen Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Who sees the revolution,Whilst the people are slaughted and maimed,Who speaks of the sun and the seed and the stars,Whilst the bodies lie unclaimed.A view from a heart that says pointles,So much for that says another,Whos empty hand can understand,Tears flowing, son, daughter, father and mother. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-227966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Nice work Antijen - is it your own? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Oh Gallinello, too many 'el'sBut oh, I suppose she was ugly; she wasn't elegant;I hadn't yearned for her often in my prayers.Yet holding her I was limp, and nothing happened at all:I just lay there, a disgraceful load for her bed.I wanted it, she did too; and yet no pleasure camefrom the part of my sluggish loins that should bring joy.The girl entwined her ivory arms around my neck(her arms were whiter than the Sithonian snows) ,and gave me greedy kisses, thrusting her fluttering tongue,and laid her eager thigh against my thigh,and whispering fond words, called me the lord of her heartand everything else that lovers murmur in joy.And yet, as if chill hemlock were smeared upon my body,my numb limbs would not act out my desire.I lay there like a log, a fraud, a worthless weight;my body might as well have been a shadow.Too much humour I fear..My bad, I didn't credit, but you know where it's from don't you? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I suspect not with antijen - but glamorous nevertheless. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Now I'm old and feebleand my pilot light is out.What used to be my sex appealis now my water spout.Twas a time, when of it's own accordfrom my trousers would it spring.But now I have a part time jobto find the bloody thing.I used to be embarressedto make the thing behave.For every single morning itwould stand and watch me shave.Alas old age approachesit sure gives me the blues,to see it hang it's withered headand watch me tie my shoes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Marvellous, doggerel still lives! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thank you Huguenot.I'm sure either Pam Ayres or Ogden Nash would be proud that some are still carrying the torch. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antijen Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hugo and Brum the words are mine,Plagiarism is fine,Intentional is a sign.You've crossed the line.Who says? Not me, Didnt know the meaning, Till kids in higher education, Originality exaggeration.Ideas, words, theories, google to claim them yours,Already been said, running round in your head,Are they mine? I'm now really unsure.Hasn't everything been said before,Diffrent meanings for you and for me,Call me naive but I really believe,Put together yourself, they are free. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Dear Antijen,You work with originalityAnd often quite creatively,That's as obvious to me...As that big bump in your belly!(Best wishes by the way) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-228790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antijen Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Thanks brum, my daughters the one with the bump,Around 2 weeks, then for me first time gran,Overwhelming and I'm not good with plans,Busy nesting away for the birthing day,So my daughter has rest when she can. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-229327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Begging your pardon I raced aheadAn earlier post I clearly misread!Such a case of mistaken identityDeserves to be in the Monkey Puzzle story!Are you familiar with this book?If not it's worth a look -As there's someone who will needA bedtime story for you to read... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-230176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally81 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Lost a friend in Afghanistan this week. RIP Sean and all those who have lost their lives fighting this war.Young HeartsYoung hearts run free apparentlyThey beat near us no longerThey slip down cracks in busy pavementsGet lost like socks and bits of paperYoung hearts throb with life one momentThen fade like broken promises the nextThey skip away from happy homesChasing boys, chasing girls, chasing dreamsThey don?t come back that night, next morningThey lie in streets, broken hearts broken bonesYoung hearts float above the world they roamedThey leave behind a life time of achingBaited breath awaits a returnWho could tell? Who could have known?Free they go, those young heartsSwaggering and weaving their journeyAnd in a single nothingness flashA young heart leaves us A whole world will smash. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-230608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 My sincere condolences and a very appropriate choice of poem. If I meet you at the forum drinks we'll drink to Sean and all his fallen comrades and the families and friends they have left behind. RIP. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-230678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_the_chin Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 My first ever poem, should I give up the day job?176I see you, every morning, your red livery with the white striped frontspeeding away from my stop, evermore.oh 176, bus of my nightmarescramped seating, magnificent heating -in summer.yet ice cold in winter, torture you areand tortoise you are, in speedwalking pace crawl, through traffic'this bus is stopped to regulate the service'or so you tell us.bollocks, I think, bollocksand drivers who can't find 3rd gear or stop to chat outside EdwardesGrrr! I think, Grrr!I have yet to lookbut assured am I thatsomewhere, in that great tome,you are mentionedin the geneva convention:protocol four Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-245887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I like it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-245888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Very good. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/5060-poetry-corner/page/3/#findComment-245894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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