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So i have heard a few rumors regarding the Grove Tavern. I first heard Weatherspoons were potentially looking at relocating from the capitol cinema to the grove in the near future. Then again having trawled through the web I cam across the Stonegate pub company who say they are due to reopen soon after a major refurbishment. Does anyone actually know the furure of the Grove. Would be nice to have it reopen as a nice pub.
  • 2 weeks later...
It didn't burn down. It had a fire. It's still there. Harvester absolutely ruined it by ripping out all of its beautiful original features. It was a lovely pub once. Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor used to go there in the 60s when they had a place in Dulwich. I was a regular in the 70s and it had a splendid restaurant in there in those days. If it was run on similar lines to let's say The Great Exhibition or The Ivy House and with all that space in the garden I'm sure it could be a popular destination for drinkers and foodies alike once again.

Hey, you can't just casually lob in that Burton & Taylor lived in Dulwich. More info please. Anyone? Why no blue plaque?



Jah Lush Wrote:

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Richard Burton and Elizabeth

> Taylor used to go there in the 60s when they had a

> place in Dulwich.

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> It didn't burn down. It had a fire.


Sorry, sloppy language on my part - that's what I meant. I'm aware that it's still there.


Apparently my parents used to go there in the 60s when the local youths would race their motorbikes / scooters between it and another SE pub (name of which I can't now remember).

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> The Grove Tavern was actually built on the site of

> Lord Byron's primary school. Hence you have Byron

> House on the estate around the corner.


And when the school closed and the main building demolished, a Mr Bew who was one of the school's servants, opened a tavern in the outbuildings and established a tea garden. Hence you also have Bew House next door to Byron House on the estate.

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The Dulwich Estate has confirmed that architects have been appointed to prepare a planning application for a ?mixed development? of residential and retail uses on the site.



So, with that I can only conclude that it's closing and replaced with more ugly flats and another bloody supermarket.


Short-sighted rapacious money grabbing bastards!


If there is one thing we need up this end of Lordship Lane it's a decent pub.

"

Short-sighted rapacious money grabbing bastards!


If there is one thing we need up this end of Lordship Lane it's a decent pub.

"


convo has been had before but it has been decades since that place was a decent pub. There must be a reason various incarnations haven't worked

James Barber wrote


It would make a great site for a new primary school.


Actually, whilst I think that, everything else being equal, its location in the borough (and footprint) would be good, it's actual location, between the South Circular and Lordship Lane would mean that, apart from those who could access it from the right side of the road - granted that does include the two big estates - would pose significant road safety issues - it wouldn't be ideal for the primary starved Underhill Road-ers for instance. I doubt whether TFL would be happy to see lollipop ladies holding up rush hour traffic on the South Circular either.


It was a successful pub back in the 70's and 80's (its gardens were great in the summer) - it even did quite well in its initial Harvester guise. But a number of wrong decisions - and a failure to build a convincing narrative for it - resulted in it losing its old customers without gaining new ones. With its parking, and its location close to a number of areas of interest it could have made a good pub/ restaurant with rooms, for instance.


Clearly that would need investment, and it wouldn't have generated the geld that the Estate thinks it can get in this way (b*stards) but it would have added to local amenity, rather than adding to the demands to be made on local education, health, water and drainage provision.

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