Ladies be careful! (Lounged)

[Tony.London Suburbs]

*Bob* Wrote:

until Mrs Right (not her real name) ...now that did make me laugh out loud:))

........ they like me for my ability to treat them as equals, rather than any skills I might have in

> the laying-coats-over-puddles department.

Actually I treat them as Equals as well.

I let them walk in front if there's any possibility of imminent danger, let them pull a chair out for me, walk nearest the roadside so that 50% they will "cop it".

In the event that we stay somewhere I will allow them to sleep on the floor!

They LOVE me treating them as Equals, HONEST GUV!

Please note the space after the comma's, .........:))

[*Bob*]

Laying coats over puddles = chivalry

Helping out someone who needs help = the right thing.

Happy to do the latter. But 'chivalry' is cobblers.

[*Bob*]

And less of the 't**t', please.. I get enough of that at home.

[halicon]

Think it is time to end this thread! You are right in your world chivalry is cobblers.

The right thing is the way to go and this man did not do the right thing!

He used a scarey situation to his own advantage and terrified an innocent woman.She had no idea what he was going to do or how she was going to get away. It was an empty street and there were no people around, he invaded her personal space and sense of security.

We only wanted to make sure ladies out on their own were more careful than my friend and that people be cautious, not start a race, gender or crime debate!

I may have been flippant, more trying not to terrify others than flippancy.

I find this whole discussion unbelievable, considering some of the crap that is talked about on here, but those who have found it useful I am glad, those who have not, dont dwell on it or give it another thought!

[boosboss]

This thread has become absolutely @"*&ing ridiculous! Some of you are as 'kin mad as the scary black man with the suitcase!

Try this:-

America has it's first President! Oh wait, there's something missing, America has it's first Tall, Dark haired President! No, still something missing! America has it's first Black President! Yes that's it! Hallechuffingluliah!!!!

Being black is not offensive, being described as black is not offensive.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

halicon Wrote:

male insensitive, gits!

One simple MUST object! Certain parts of me are very sensitive, Thank You::o

Be aware that the person it happened to reads these and how awful she must feel, when all she wanted was to prevent the fear being repeated on any one else!

Now you CAN'T blame the flood of responses!

This thread contains "All Human Life!"....Sex/Race/Who-Dun-It/PC or Not PC/ Mystery (whether anything had been done in the first place)/ Chivalry...no wonder everyone wants to air their 10 pence worthB)

[Tony.London Suburbs]

boosboss Wrote:

Being described as black(or White) is not offensive.

It is when they are clearly "Mixed Race"....:))

p.s. Don't mind me adding the "White" bit in the interests of balance:)

[honk]

Pickle Wrote:

a well meant warning to

> anyone walking alone after dark.

This illustrates how utterly pointless this entire thread has been - if you need to visit an internet forum to find out such revelations as taking care when walking alone at night, then you deserve all you get.

[TillieTrotter]

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[Tony.London Suburbs]

I agree, wholeheartedly, TillieT...Well Said(tu)

[TillieTrotter]

Thanks Tone, I do like to think I can get my point across when needs be.

[Pickle]

honk Wrote:

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> Pickle Wrote:

> a well meant warning to

> > anyone walking alone after dark.

>

>

> This illustrates how utterly pointless this entire

> thread has been - if you need to visit an internet

> forum to find out such revelations as taking care

> when walking alone at night, then you deserve all

> you get.

...yet you started a thread entitled "Top 'My Wife's Bored' shops in East Dulwich". How very useful!

[Lizziedjango]

I read the original posting with interest and then recalled something that happened to me about 3 weeks ago in Forest Hill Rd SE22 outside the Co-op. It was about 8PM so dark, and not many people around.

A VERY good looking WHITE guy ran over to me and gave me a bear hug and a smacker on the cheek. He said I was 'beautiful' and just loved the shirt I was wearing(!). I expect he had had a bit to drink, but who knows?! I found it extremely flattering if I am honest - but would I have felt the same if he had been less attractive? I wonder.

I am married anyway, and my mother-in-law witnessed it all from outside the cashpoint. She found it very funny. I am wondering if there is much difference between this incident and the one of which the OP tells.

There is certainly one difference: I was flattered and found it funny; the other person was terrified. Hm.

[honk]

Pickle Wrote:

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> honk Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Pickle Wrote:

> > a well meant warning to

> > > anyone walking alone after dark.

> >

> >

> > This illustrates how utterly pointless this

> entire

> > thread has been - if you need to visit an

> internet

> > forum to find out such revelations as taking

> care

> > when walking alone at night, then you deserve

> all

> > you get.

>

> ...yet you started a thread entitled "Top 'My

> Wife's Bored' shops in East Dulwich". How very

> useful!

Well, useful if you mean 'pushes this kind of paranoid middle-class shrieking down the board a bit further', yes

[Moos]

Lizziedjango Wrote:

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I am wondering if there is

> much difference between this incident and the one

> of which the OP tells.

>

> There is certainly one difference: I was flattered

> and found it funny; the other person was

> terrified. Hm.

Lizzie, I don't want to misinterpret your post so can I just ask for clarity - are you suggesting the person in question was wrong to feel afraid?

Honk, I'm puzzled that you don't think a local forum is exactly the right sort of place for making people aware that there may be someone around with inappropriate behaviour towards women. If the person was frightened, do you think she (or her friend on her behalf) should have said nothing? I'm not sure I see why.

[brum]

Personally I can't see the problem in using this forum as a kind of modern-day neighbourhood watch scheme. It's all about looking out for each other, just as it should be in a caring community such as ours - well I'd like to think so.

[honk]

Moos Wrote:

> Honk, I'm puzzled that you don't think a local

> forum is exactly the right sort of place for

> making people aware that there may be someone

> around with inappropriate behaviour towards women.

> If the person was frightened, do you think she

> (or her friend on her behalf) should have said

> nothing? I'm not sure I see why.

I agree, my issue is with a post that solely mentions that there is a 'black' bloke who (and this is the only fact that we have here) - once shouted at a woman near EDT. On busy Lordship Lane. At 6pm.

What do you suggest we do exactly?

Maybe try phoning the police to report any black people you see in the area (holding your ear well away from the earpiece to stop the laughter deafening you)

[Moos]

I don't think anyone suggested that the police need to be called - I thought it was more of a marker, to let people be aware of what had happened.

If the guy is local, it's perfectly possible that he may do it again, but of course what we all hope is that the thread will go quiet and we'll never hear about it again. On balance, I think Halicon was absolutely right to put the thread up.

As for 'a woman being shouted at', if you are a woman you will know that women get shouted at pretty much daily in London. We don't know what happened here, but it seems safe to assume that it was something that seemed out of the ordinary and genuinely threatening, at least to the person to whom it happened.

[honk]

I hate to attribute values to this kind of thing, but with murder being 10 and a mugging being say, 5, this rates about 0.1.

If you have cause to be suspicious of someone, try phoning the police.

A call to arms on a forum to be wary of black men is next to useless.

I hate to say it, but if someone's going to attack you, they will, and no amount of forum postings are going to prevent this.

[TillieTrotter]

What is this thing you have about people saying "black" men/man. It doesn't matter what colour he was, he could have been any colour and it would still be just as threatening! He just happened to be a "black" man.

[Moos]

A reminder to be alert and keep an eye on your safety is always useful. Thanks, Halicon.

[halicon]

Thanks finally for some rational thought in this matter, let it end there please!!

[Tony.London Suburbs]

You've created a Monster Halicon!...thread can't just be left to slink ignominously away....

Disclaimer:When I said you "created" a Monster I was NOT implying that this Guy does not exist...Phew!...one has to be sooo careful what one says these dayz::o

[charliecharlie]

Wow, I am amazed, scanning over this thread, that so many people seem to have no idea how unsettling it can feel when you are on the street, alone at night, and someone is behaving weirdly around you. The issue is that you have NO IDEA whether you are totally safe, or whether the person in question is a serious danger to you.

Also... A little compassion and understanding goes a long way in life, I am sorry to hear you friend was frighted by the situation, not nice for anyone.

I have lived in South London for 20yrs, I consider myself to be pretty street aware and try not let the possibility of dangers on the street prevent me from living my life to the full, however it is wise to use your brain and to also alert others to any possible danger... Thank you for letting us know.

[matthew123]

Lizziedjango it is completely different what happened, see original post. If this "admirer" has later followed you down a side street and said 'dont be scared' and then met each one of your side steps to pin you into a corner would you have taken it so easily? Of course not.