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I couldn't care less whether a pub/bar was built for that purpose or started life as a restaurant, shoe shop or surgical appliance factory - makes a change for premises to become bars instead of other way around.


I have been in many, many 'pubs/boozers' (even lived in and co-ran one for a couple of years - and it's now a flipping restaurant) and a fair number were places of real character where one could spend an evening without the need for hot food, comedy, football on telly or even a pool table - but plenty were also depressing dingy places with stinking toilets and stale ale.


I like the Flying Pig for its selection of beers and proper still ciders, a good selection of spirits and a long bar to sit at. That's all I need.

So Quids and Otta, define boozer as you will but the OP most likely meant anywhere you can buy a beer or a drink.


Personally I'm not sure that I think one is the best. I'm not sure we really have a good one that ticks all the boxes.


If you asked me which one I'd least like to close I'd probably sat the EDT as it does a bit of everything relatively well.

I've never said other bars can't be great, and I'm sure the OP did just mean the best watering hole.


But the term "boozer" is old skool and to me it means old skool pub.


Many old skool pubs were / are shit.


But a good old skool pub which becomes a hub for a load of people who will never necessarily have each other's phone numbers, but who will greet each other warmly in there, is my ideal place.

Louisa Wrote:

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> The Palmerston - great example of old school

> 'boozer'. Now it's just a restaurant where you can

> have a drink and sit outside. Not the same thing.

>

>

> Louisa.


Which is the reason I didn't include it in my earlier round up. Loved it in there during the 80s and 90s when it was a pub but now I firmly think of it as a restaurant. Never go in there these days.


I suppose you've heard that Keith passed away recently, Louisa?

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> I understand Otta. A locals pub, all good fun I'm

> sure. The Castle is the only one I think fits the

> bill of people standing around the bar.



A "locals pub" that is welcoming to new people.


My old local in Liverpool took me in after a couple of visits, and people would wave good morning on the way to work. That makes a person feel like a part of a community.

Otta Wrote:

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> But a good old skool pub which becomes a hub for a

> load of people who will never necessarily have

> each other's phone numbers, but who will greet

> each other warmly in there, is my ideal place.


Are you sure you aren't just recalling an episode of Cheers.

Not to say the word that we're not supposed to say any more, but that's exactly how I made most of my friends in the hood, down the old CPT, int that right keef?


Jeremy Wrote:

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> I've never really gone down the pub and socialised

> with the regulars. I've always thought that was

> something that old geezers do. Or if it's in

> Eastenders.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Not to say the word that we're not supposed to say

> any more, but that's exactly how I made most of my

> friends in the hood, down the old CPT, int that

> right keef?


I don't really get this thing of going out, and you know, talking to people. What's all that about?

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Unless I've been abducted by aliens and

> brainwashed - we stepped into the Clockhouse this

> weekend (first time in several years) - and had a

> damned decent roast beef sunday lunch.

>

>

> I post mostly out of sheer shock.


The last time I was in there the food looked really good, and friends said it tasted great too. Shame we'd made a point of eating before arriving (based on previous).


Need to give that one another shot.

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> See, that's just what gets my goat about the more

> recent pub goer in East Dulwich these days. They

> base their review of a pub on how good the fecking

> roast is.



It was a footnote, not a review.


What else can I tell you about the place? Ooh, let's see - it was actually full of people - instead of being a cavernous empty room with eight drunks propping up the bar and bogs that stink of piss.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> It was a footnote, not a review.

>

> What else can I tell you about the place? Ooh,

> let's see - it was actually full of people -

> instead of being a cavernous empty room with eight

> drunks propping up the bar and bogs that stink of

> piss.


Don't talk about Jah and his mates like that....

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