Best Boozer in East Dulwich

[Otta]

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > It's not really the fault of the people that

> eat

> > in pubs Lou, it's largely the fault of the

> PubCos

> > that made running a pub so bloody hard for the

> > people trying to make a profit.

>

>

> It's what (most) people want, so pub companies

> deliver.

>

> Supply and demand.

You've misunderstood my post. Pubcos are the umbrella companies that sell leases to people which tie them in to having to buy their booze at high prices, and they are the reason lots of pubs went out of business. I don't think that is what most people want. I think anyone that would want that (outside of the actual pubcos that are benefitting from it) is a bit of an idiot.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

I used to live in Pertol pump flat on Uplands road. Upper flat. Had friends living in the one on dunstans. Amazing garden and folly in the back. Some great taxidermy going on inside as well if i recall correctly!

[Otta]

So were they owned by the same person?

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Yep...a builder chap who spent most of his time in Spain. I recall the one on Dunstans had an ecletic decoration and included stuffed fish in cases...

[*Bob*]

Was the one with the windmill one of his as well?

[Sue]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> It makes me so sad and angry. All the front

> gardens used to be filled with petrol pumps and

> life was great. But then they started taking the

> petrol pumps away and new people arrived and the

> new people weren't quite like the old people so

> now I just stay at home alone and cry into my

> dinner mostly.

:)) :)) :))

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Not familair with that one *Bob*

Loads of demi-johns outside and weird and wonderful stuff. The garden at the Uplands one was very tame - just a paved yard out back compared to Dunstans.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Was the one with the windmill one of his as well?

[Jeremy]

Louisa Wrote:

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> I've been a few times to Brockley market, it has a

> great vibe to the place.

You'd hate it if it was in ED!

[Parkdrive]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Parkdrive - so you're telling us there are parts

> of the country that are cheaper than London? With

> larger houses, fewer chicken shops, and less

> rubbish lying around? And people living there who

> are happy?

Erm, yes, well spotted.

[Parkdrive]

Seabag Wrote:

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> > Why would it hurt? She made a fortune and banked

> a

> > few hundred grand into the process, and enjoys

> a

> > far better quality of life. No, she's laughing

> at

> > the deluded fools living in ED who think

> thye've

> > done really well. Now that would hurt you I'm

> > sure.

>

> Good luck to her, up there in Hereford/Glosterland

>

>

> Tho thinking about it, "she' must have had the

> very biggest of houses to sell in Dunstans Road 20

> odd years ago. I'm glad she's cock-a-hoop with her

> good fortune, so much so she can snort with

> derision at the very place and people she made her

> considerable stash from

Her mum and dad did, and left the house to her.

>

> I too hope to move to my Shangi-lala Melon Farm,

> but in the meantime i'll have to settle with the

> house I bought 15 yrs ago. Thankfully my delusion

> allows me to function in this, the most

> cosmopolitan of sh*tholes

>

> I'm sure she feels my pain

>

She just feels that those that dwell in SE22 have paid well over the odds for what they have, and what they have isn't very much.

> *kicks chicken box*

>

>

>

> Edited to add: I've kicked a 'virtual' chicken box

> here. As finding one on my street's proving

> somewhat challenging

Try Lordhip Lane most nights, you won't be disappointed

[Jeremy]

OK thanks for clarifying. Just wanted to make sure I understood the main thrust of your anecdote.

[*Bob*]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> She just feels that those that dwell in SE22 have

> paid well over the odds for what they have, and

> what they have isn't very much.

How does she know what they have?

[Parkdrive]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> > She just feels that those that dwell in SE22

> have

> > paid well over the odds for what they have, and

> > what they have isn't very much.

>

> How does she know what they have?

Bob like most of us she looks in estate agent windows for current market rates and compares with what she has. But you knew that becasue you're an intelligent sort of a chap.

[Parkdrive]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> OK thanks for clarifying. Just wanted to make sure

> I understood the main thrust of your anecdote.

Glad to be of service.

[*Bob*]

So she thinks of London 'value' in terms of how much bricks, mortar and garden you get for your money?

There's her problem right there. No wonder she's happier now.

[Parkdrive]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> So she thinks of London 'value' in terms of how

> much bricks, mortar and garden you get for your

> money?

>

> There's her problem right there. No wonder she's

> happier now.

No she thinks that having a home which looks out on to rolling hill and countryside, with quiet clean streets, and friendly locals is better than living in London, with a property overlooking the property opposite, streets full of litter, overcrowding, overpricing, ............shall I continue?

[Jah Lush]

It would great to see The Grove Tavern up and running again. I'd hate to see it go the same way as The Heber, The Oglander, Moore Park Hotel and Hoopers.

[*Bob*]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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... shall I continue?

Continue comparing chalk to cheese - as if there is some sort of right/wrong better/worse between the two?

Not sure I see the point really.

[red devil]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> ... shall I continue?

>

> Continue comparing chalk to cheese - as if there

> is some sort of right/wrong better/worse between

> the two?

>

> Not sure I see the point really.

That's because there isn't one. ED still offers good value compared to some areas of London...and so it goes on.

When someone leaves London it's best not to look back when it comes to house prices, it only leads to disappointment...

[Louisa]

*Bob* you've turned into a sort EDF political activist on this thread. The chalk with cheese line does sum up this whole argument though. I think ED is a dump comparable to somewhere nice in the countryside, my personal opinion. But, people who love these places and pay over the odds to live in them do so not for the lovely scenery, but for a whole host of other things like transport links, jobs, proximity to amenities etc I'm pretty sure they didn't come here for a room with a view overlooking the hanging gardens of Babylon.

Louisa.

[Otta]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> It would great to see The Grove Tavern up and

> running again. I'd hate to see it go the same way

> as The Heber, The Oglander, Moore Park Hotel and

> Hoopers.

Heard a whisper (nothing more than that) that it might become a Wetherspoons in the Capitol in Forest Hill closes.

I would much rather that than see it remain boarded up.

[Jeremy]

So let me get this right. Some people live in cities (even though it can be expensive) because of things like jobs, facilities, culture, socialising, etc. While others prefer to live in the countryside where there is more space and the scenery is more pleasant. Does that sum it up?

[*Bob*]

You forgot the essential extra bit, Jeremy: the ones in the cities must be fools.

[El Pibe]

You mean people cluster around centres of commerce and infrastructural access to those centres?

Whilst yet others offset that lack of availability for more intangible benefits and affordability, and mayhap there is a financial benefit in going from one to the other?

weird.

[El Pibe]

DOn't forget Bob, that people in cities x years ago were better, and those now are "arseholes".

Nothing to do with the beholder changing, no its categorical fact that we're better than them (although those little collars on those plaid shirts are intrinsically annoying)