adonirum Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 ........are no longer an equal opportunities employer? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 What? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonirum Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hi OttaIt has been announced today that the Met Police will no longer accept applications, for the role of police officer,from applicants that do not live in London (have to have lived here for 3yrs). Clearly, this excludes a lot of the population. Therefore, can they still claim to be an equal opportunities employer ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 It seems like an unusual policy, but if it helps solve some of the met's obvious problems then I'd say it's a good thing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Tend to agree with Jeremy. Definitely don't think it means they're not an equal opportunities employer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Depends what you mean by "equal opportunities".How about if you only accept candidates with a degree? How about if you won't consider candidates who don't speak fluent English? Or have a criminal record?Any of these could be interpreted as discrimination if you wanted to put that spin on it, yet they are all relevant criteria. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 anyone of any gender, race or sexual preference can choose to live in London (or out of London) so this is nothing to do with Equal Opportunities..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 What quids said Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonirum Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Very good point about the degree aspect, Jeremy, but can't agree on the criminal record point. It's always been accepted that a criminal record is unacceptable for the role of a police officer and, indeed, a prison officer. Fluent English would seem to be a necessity, but I can see what you mean.Quite a few years ago, the police service had to drop the age criteria because it was felt/deemed to be discriminatory. The rule was that you could only be appointed between the ages of 18 and 30, unless joining straight from the armed services when the upper age limit was extended to 32. This obviously excluded a large proportion of the population for no good reason other than a number. I just pose the question that this is for no good reason other than geography.Or should that read: other than geographical. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 You can't do anything about your DOB, you can move Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> anyone of any gender, race or sexual preference can choose to live in London (or out of London) so> this is nothing to do with Equal Opportunities.....Discrimination is generally divided into direct and indirect. Direct is the more obvious one, where a particular gender, race or sexual preference is specifically discriminated against.Indirect is where a particular criteria or policy indirectly discriminates, as it favours or makes it harder for a particular group. For example, saying you must be over six feet tall would been seen to indirect discriminate against women, as they are far less likely meet that criteria.I'm not saying that this is a case of indirect discrimination, but a lawyer might.My goodness, I *did* learn something from those damn online anti-discrimination courses my last company made everyone do! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonirum Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 ????, surely you would apply for the job and if successful then you would move.Loz, that is another policy that had to be dropped, in this instance, by the City of London Police. They did in fact have a policy that all applicants had to be six feet tall and,indeed, the overriding factor was just as you mention, that is was seen as particularly discriminatory against women candidates. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I imagine there will be some sort of transfer policy for police from outside London who move here to get in? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Maybe they can't afford the re-location fees so it is understandable. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-764764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgrant Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Its good that the met are accepting applicants with a criminal record now - it saves so much time a few years down the line when all coppers seem to have gained one by sheer hard work. Shame the ED police station isnt still functioning - They would have to raise the bar a bit to get new arrivals to fit in SE22 - a 5 stretch as a minumum entry qualification as least. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46798-does-this-mean-that-the-met-police/#findComment-765038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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