slh2009 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Hi I've read that some people have had problems at immigration, UK and abroad, when travelling with a child with a different surname.My friend who works for Border Control said I should take a letter from my partner giving his permission for me to travel with my son, and a copy of his passport. I just wondered how often people get questioned in reality, has anyone had experience? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunksmum Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Hi, I have been questionned twice in the past and was told to send my partner through with my child or if travelling without then always bring copy of child's birth certificate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoy Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I always have abcopy of the birth certificate in my wallet.Isually l am too lazy to get it out of questioned, but l would not travel without it.But l honestly think it is quiet discriminatory: we are married, just not having one family name and l have to prove constantly l have the right to travel with them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wienekegommers Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonethebeaver Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I've taken my marriage certificate to show I'm married to someone with that surname, which has been accepted. I find it really irritating too - I look exactly like my children and our passport records show we have travelled repeatedly together. The idea that surname is so crucial grates. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I had no idea this could be an issue, although our kids have both our surnames so I guess that might be why it's never come up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slh2009 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Thanks all, looks like I had better take a copy of the birth certificate too as I am not married and my partner is not travelling with us. I would never have thought about it being an issue either but happened to read something about it and thought I'd better investigate, glad I did! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaG3 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Things like this never used to be an issue. As kids we used to be on my mums passport, never had our own. I suppose they have to be on the ball with people not having permission to travel with their kids etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggie Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 From a safeguarding POV I can completely see why this can be an issue - if some were happily ushered through it'd provide too big a loophole to be used by those trafficking children. Know it sounds extreme, but it is a huge issue & thus there have to be procedures in place to protect children and unfortunately can't exclude the nice looking families.I feel more angry that there are people so nasty as to traffic children/adults than the officials trying to prevent it.Ironically, the old style thing where children were on their Mum's passport would've avoided this (although then create an issue for Dad's travelling solo with kids).Am sure there are lots more occasions where Dads are vilified and eyed suspiciously when with their kids - how many of our other halfs have had occasions where they've had to "prove" their the parent/are acting with the Mum's consent? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmei Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think even with the same surname, it may be advisable to be prepared if one parent is travelling with the kids. My husband sometimes takes the kids travelling without me and I give a notarised letter of consent. He's never been questioned though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yak Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Both me and OH have a different surname to our son. Never occurred to bring his birth cert with us when we travel, but thinking we should do in future. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieP Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I have a scanned copy my marriage certificate as a pdf on my iphone which seems to be acceptable. Have been stopped on several occasions and staff have said that although it's obvious they are my kids, they still have to go through the motions. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srisky Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I'm glad they are vigilant about this. However , what happens if e.g grandparents take the kids on holiday? How is a letter from the parents giving consent verified as authentic? Anyone have experience of this? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-761945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmei Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Possibly this is where the notarised document comes into play.However, one thing you can do is contact by email the embassy of the country that is being visited and ask what the situation is. This is what we did for Greece and were advised about the notarised letter of consent. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanne Panne Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I am always asked for the birth certificate when entering or exiting the "other" country. Wondering if UK border control has the parents' names logged when they scan the childrens' passports because they never ask me if they're mine when I leave the UK with them... (my passport is EU but non-UK and my kids' passports are British AND they have different surnames). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devsdev Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 The letter of consent is also to prove (however far it can) that the travelling parent is not abducting the children in case of custody battles etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonethebeaver Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 But devdev, that only works if you're in a 'custody battle' with someone with a different surname. If you're genuinely concerned that your ex will take the kids out of the country against your wishes for nefarious purposes, you need a prohibited steps order. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devsdev Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Simone, agreed. I think they can ask for a letter even if names are the same. I remember reading an article about a mother trying to get back her kids from Russia (she had actually sent them to visit their dad) and it referred to this. Our kids have both our names, but I travel with a letter and birth certificate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnyaJoeli Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I've travelled to Canada twice with my son without my husband and have had to have copies of my son's birth certificate, our marriage certificate (I haven't changed my passport to my married name yet), and a letter of consent from my husband. They are all checked carefully, but I've always wondered how they know it's authentic as I could've written the letter myself rather than my husband... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fra81 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Me and my son have different surnames as well as different nationalities! We have travelled on our own without dad numerous times and I never got questioned. In any event I carry the birth certificate with me, but I don't have a letter of consent each time. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heber jumble queen Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 This is odd. I've never even considered this and have travelled abroad with my sons several times who have a different surname to mine. It's never been an issue for me - are you talking about very young children? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etta166 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 It can be awkward when you have a different nationality too. I've never had a problem in Europe but I did get a grilling going back "home" with children that I said were mine, but had a different name and nationality. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srisky Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I am really glad I read this thread, as it would have never occurred to me to take these documents/letter (my passport has my maiden name). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slh2009 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks everyone, this has been really helpful. I just wondered if people get the letters of consent notarised as well? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-762914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
canela Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I have a different surname to my kids and they look nothing like me. I have travelled loads with them on my own and never once been asked. I've never thought of having to take proof but I will now. to be honest it all seems a bit random. In many countries women do not change their name so they always have a different name to their children, who take the family name. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/46410-travelling-with-a-child-with-a-different-surname/#findComment-763290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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